X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:51:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm25-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.115.198] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with SMTP id 6667046 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:08:43 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.115.198; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [66.196.81.166] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2014 14:08:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.156] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2014 14:08:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2014 14:08:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 318889.15636.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: he9ptq0VM1myzzmU8RQhDvF0uEAZGMJGP9B0Mynja8RzrZ0 Rli1h.96lDvcdpcMy7gMkm1oQTrJl1Dpk7Dib_gTFPAYDk9cyoxSawxljy_K 0kZ.1t5zmpbaWZkMUDHGJWZ.Q57DqAhmNvykQO4lrzdcd2ohohC.76GkjIRV 8nX6wo6CiMxGfgP0ZabF4Y69TsNuWyL_qAytQUmTqv7NHHETl2NWUSRm.p3w xfuStik7mbwZmq2VqrzeJ0o1UV7FU69Ub5C5NZFWkAbsINpdL_OEtR_lh1lq 2Tn.TK9TRnVds18dCkmwGauJIn0Yrd.Qf19F11ODpvPm6aOYwType2cLedXV 37O.qC6fCUyJFKC9Nor.0iWh1ZbEZpcr6bWmn7vn.aEBRjjUbPqwCu0MSh5u jPVC.5_ByDb_EIN0n4LuwhaEi5LxcVxe477OgWdnvuO3cHntx73jBNffu9JP Tmez5t.jUiw1wmOysW3LuM93bcccCO0skj6cXww3whctKhnNryDEfz6vdKPc nR8oyxKs6GB1KcyshXvKCBjFxP0FNf_cXVIJxKhWS2gpSUM7yFDWVvj1lzst 6hUrA_5JB X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml X-Rocket-Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.106.138 with plain [98.139.221.191]) by smtp116.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jan 2014 14:08:08 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Legacy Takeoff Performance at High Elevation Airports? From: Charles Brown In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:08:07 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Valin, I noted (and share) Dennis Johnson's impression that Legacy = landing distance is actually longer (typically) than takeoff so I ran = the numbers for landing as well as takeoff at Taos. Takeoff notes = repeated for convenience: KSKX (Taos) -- elevation 7100; field length 5800; slight down slope on = Rwy 22. Distance figures are integrated V dt from my Garmin data = logger. =20 Takeoff with a full load: Roll: 1960 ft. Takeoff field length to 35' = alt: 3200 ft. Weight 2300 lb, temp 19C / 66F. Wind was negligible; = full power ramped in over 2-3 sec, flaps 10. Landing with trip fuel expended: Roll: 1810 feet. Landing field length = from 35' alt: 3270 feet. Weight 2100 lb, temp 30C / 86F. Headwind = component 7kt. IAS was 90kt at 35' altitude, flaps 40, braking was = normal, not aggressive. =20 The lighter landing weight is pretty typical for a trip somewhere = because you'll normally land with trip fuel expended and take off fully = fueled. So I'll wildly assert that for a normal out-and-back trip, = takeoff and landing field lengths may be roughly equal. That fits with = my feeling that landing field length is longer (at the same weight) than = takeoff. The Legacy lands like most other airplanes but on takeoff it = accelerates like a Bat Out Of Somewhere Very Hot. Charley Brown Legacy / IO-550=