X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 07:35:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [63.230.26.161] (HELO exchange.arilabs.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6665166 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:20:30 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=63.230.26.161; envelope-from=kevin@arilabs.net Received: from exchange.arilabs.net ([10.100.100.1]) by exchange.arilabs.net ([10.100.100.1]) with mapi; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 19:19:54 -0700 From: Kevin Stallard X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 19:18:14 -0700 Subject: RE: [LML] TWO GREEN IS NOT ENOUGH Thread-Topic: [LML] TWO GREEN IS NOT ENOUGH Thread-Index: Ac8G/OUUfZB13FHQRrWWKSAx6p+bgAAY/9/z X-Original-Message-ID: <779FE3D761D7B741813E300858A248CFF3BD557241@exchange.arilabs.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In a Legacy its fine if you have a paved surface, but if you off field on g= rass or a farmers field, you risk damaging the spar when your wheels go int= o a rut or hit a big rock. It all depends on the circumstances I think... Thanks Kevin ________________________________________ From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of PETER WILLI= AMS [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 7:22 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] TWO GREEN IS NOT ENOUGH HI THERE Two months ago i landed at TEB with two green which turned out to be no lef= t main gear i made the best approach i capable of and touched down nose high in the rig= ht attitude then the left wing began to drop and full aileron kept the wing up for a wh= ile as i slowed. the wing tip came down and became the left gear substitute. i kept the plane on the runway until the load got heavy and then acqui= esced to the plane's desire to go to the left. i aimed between two landing lights and came to a quiet stop THE DAMAGE left wing tip damaged pitot scraped off light scratches to aileron and flap all told way less than $1,000 to repair (not including the actuator replacement) no prop strike THE CAUSE gear actuator failed; clearly looked like a shear failure i would not consider landing gear up after this experience. I HAD CONTROL I HAD MINOR DAMAGE the lift with the air bags cost $3,500 and was a bargain with no damage by = the lift FOOD FOR THOUGHT watch this video of a Lancair twisting and turning out of control as it gr= ound it prop and wing tips to a stop LANCAIR LANDING GEAR UP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-hFfhRVMYj0 A $20,000 PART FAILURE or here a nose gear strut that did not strut enough to extend the nose gear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXtd9RZv5N9kHI NO THANK YOU I will use whatever landing gear i have and pilot the plane until it stops NOTE HOW NICE THE NOSE GEAR KEEPS THE PROP SAFE FROM THE NASTY GROUND http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2013/10/plane-lands-safely-at-teterboro-airpo= rt.html PETER