X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:11:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from p3plex2out01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([184.168.131.12] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6549328 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:59:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=184.168.131.12; envelope-from=pete@leapfrogventures.com Received: from P3PW5EX1HT003.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET ([72.167.180.21]) by p3plex2out01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with secureserver.net id fsyc1m0080U5vnL01sycgK; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:58:36 -0700 Received: from P3PW5EX1MB14.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET ([10.6.135.86]) by P3PW5EX1HT003.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET ([72.167.180.21]) with mapi; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:58:36 -0700 From: "pete@leapfrogventures.com" X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:58:33 -0700 Subject: RE: [LML] Dukes Outflow valve repair Thread-Topic: [LML] Dukes Outflow valve repair Thread-Index: Ac7Oe3c0MJ9LosgnQHik/pOY92/3+QAAp5Fw X-Original-Message-ID: <2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF2257BC93F6@P3PW5EX1MB14.EX1.SECURESERVER.NET> References: <9ac480f9c7b44c4ebd3ad30da0444316@BLUPR07MB403.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <9ac480f9c7b44c4ebd3ad30da0444316@BLUPR07MB403.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF2257BC93F6P3PW5EX1MB14E_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF2257BC93F6P3PW5EX1MB14E_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since by process of elimination I seem to have the most experience with thi= s issue, let me make a suggestion. Colyn prompted me to think about whethe= r we could fabricate a test chamber for the pressure heads. Initially I re= sponded no, but the more I thought about it, the more I think it could be d= one. So let me throw out a number. How many folks are having a serious enough p= roblem that they would be willing to invest $800 toward construction of a D= ukes test cell, with associated digital manometers and such, to test and ca= librate their Dukes systems? I would be willing to build the contraption a= nd run the tests if enough (but not too many) folks are interested. The cell would also be useful for calibrating the emergency outflow valve (= yes, it is adjustable and is probably not set correctly from the factory). Feel free to respond directly to me. If enough folks sign up, I'm game. Pete From: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 4:48 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Dukes Outflow valve repair Lancair Owners, We have at least three Lancair owners that are having difficulty with their= pressurization controllers, and little technical information or help appea= rs to be available. If anyone has good technical information about troubles= hooting and/or maintaining the Dukes controller used in pressurized Lancair= aircraft, I'd be pleased to consolidate and provide as a package to needy = owners... Please send any such info directly to me at rpastusek@htii.com. Thanks in advance, Bob Pastusek For LOBO From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Paul= Miller Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 7:35 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Dukes Outflow valve repair $5,000 is a lot when it could be solenoid, seating, leak, controller or lin= es. Can you isolate the problem further? What kind of test tells you the= valve is not moving? Most of the problems I've seen are dirty seals which= can be cleaned or worn seals that get replaced. On 2013-10-18, at 1:49 PM, Tom Warren > wrote: appears that the outflow valve is not responsive --_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF2257BC93F6P3PW5EX1MB14E_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Since by process of elimination I se= em to have the most experience with this issue, let me make a suggestion.&n= bsp; Colyn prompted me to think about whether we could fabricate a test cha= mber for the pressure heads.  Initially I responded no, but the more I= thought about it, the more I think it could be done.

 

So let me throw out a number.&= nbsp; How many folks are having a serious enough problem that they would be= willing to invest $800 toward construction of a Dukes test cell, with asso= ciated digital manometers and such, to test and calibrate their Dukes syste= ms?  I would be willing to build the contraption and run the tests if = enough (but not too many) folks are interested.

 

The cell would also be useful for cal= ibrating the emergency outflow valve (yes, it is adjustable and is probably= not set correctly from the factory).

&n= bsp;

Feel free to respond directly to me.  If = enough folks sign up, I’m game.

&n= bsp;

Pete

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>=  

From: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 4:48 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Dukes Outflow valv= e repair

&n= bsp;

Lancair Owners,

<= br>We have at least three Lancair owners that are having difficulty with th= eir pressurization controllers, and little technical information or help ap= pears to be available. If anyone has good technical information about troub= leshooting and/or maintaining the Dukes controller used in pressurized Lanc= air aircraft, I’d be pleased to consolidate and provide as a package = to needy owners…

 

Please send any such info directly to me at rpastusek@htii.com.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Bob Pastusek=

For LOBO

 <= /font>

&nbs= p;

$5,000 is a lot when it could = be solenoid, seating, leak, controller or lines.   Can you isolate the= problem further?  What kind of test tells you the valve is not moving= ?  Most of the problems I've seen are dirty seals which can be cleaned= or worn seals that get replaced.

 

= On 2013-10-18, at 1:49 PM, Tom Warren <warrent@flash.net> wrote:


appear= s that the outflow valve is not responsive

 

= --_000_2A14E6258A8534418F5498D73CCA51EF2257BC93F6P3PW5EX1MB14E_--