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[174.0.112.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hz10sm20969291pbc.36.2013.10.21.06.30.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Miller Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2F3CF8A3-71E8-42B2-976A-3E5BF2C2899A" X-Original-Message-Id: <58649F4D-16BD-42B4-9447-93C7A8F1D3B3@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Dukes Outflow valve repair X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:30:16 -0600 References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_2F3CF8A3-71E8-42B2-976A-3E5BF2C2899A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I think you should ask Dukes formally for a component maintenance = manual, parts list, instructions for continued airworthiness, theory of = operation and overhaul manual as owners of the aircraft part and LOBO. = Its part of what's required to maintain airworthiness. You probably = won't get it but you should have it as builders of the aircraft. At a = minimum, Lancair should have it, they did the engineering and should = know all the requirements. Anyone getting an airplane from Lancair with = a Dukes valve has to have the instructions necessary to maintain = airworthiness. Okay, that may be the FAR for type certificated aircraft = but the Lancairs are type certificated in Canada so I guarantee those = manuals have to be available for Transport Canada and Canadian = pressurized Lancairs (although they might not know it). This stuff is = not supposed to be secret. I'd send a missile to Dukes and get Lancair = to organize the materials. No Evo buyer is going to be excited to find = he can build the airplane and not have data on the pressurization = components. On 2013-10-21, at 5:47 AM, Robert R Pastusek wrote: Lancair Owners, We have at least three Lancair owners that are having difficulty with = their pressurization controllers, and little technical information or = help appears to be available. If anyone has good technical information = about troubleshooting and/or maintaining the Dukes controller used in = pressurized Lancair aircraft, I=92d be pleased to consolidate and = provide as a package to needy owners=85 =20 Please send any such info directly to me at rpastusek@htii.com. =20 Thanks in advance, =20 Bob Pastusek For LOBO =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Paul Miller Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 7:35 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Dukes Outflow valve repair =20 $5,000 is a lot when it could be solenoid, seating, leak, controller or = lines. Can you isolate the problem further? What kind of test tells = you the valve is not moving? Most of the problems I've seen are dirty = seals which can be cleaned or worn seals that get replaced. =20 On 2013-10-18, at 1:49 PM, Tom Warren wrote: appears that the outflow valve is not responsive =20 --Apple-Mail=_2F3CF8A3-71E8-42B2-976A-3E5BF2C2899A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = think you should ask Dukes formally for a component maintenance manual, = parts list, instructions for continued airworthiness, theory of = operation and overhaul manual as owners of the aircraft part and LOBO. =   Its part of what's required to maintain airworthiness.  You = probably won't get it but you should have it as builders of the = aircraft.  At a minimum, Lancair should have it, they did the = engineering and should know all the requirements.  Anyone getting = an airplane from Lancair with a Dukes valve has to have the instructions = necessary to maintain airworthiness.  Okay, that may be the FAR for = type certificated aircraft but the Lancairs are type certificated in = Canada so I guarantee those manuals have to be available for Transport = Canada and Canadian pressurized Lancairs (although they might not know = it). This stuff is not supposed to be secret.  I'd send a missile = to Dukes and get Lancair to organize the materials.   No Evo buyer = is going to be excited to find he can build the airplane and not have = data on the pressurization = components.


On 2013-10-21, at 5:47 AM, = Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com> = wrote:

Lancair = Owners,

We have at least three Lancair owners that are = having difficulty with their pressurization controllers, and little = technical information or help appears to be available. If anyone has = good technical information about troubleshooting and/or maintaining the = Dukes controller used in pressurized Lancair aircraft, I=92d be pleased = to consolidate and provide as a package to needy = owners=85
 
Please send any such info directly to me = at  
appears that the outflow = valve is not responsive