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I strongly disagree in a 360, first, no need to make trim changes close to the ground unless you retract the flaps if you set the trim properly for take-off. If trim changes are a problem then just leave them down until high enough to feel comfortable. I agree with Bill why carry the extra speed and length required for a no flap take-off. Remember the 320-360 flaps are reflexed 7 degrees to kill lift and drag in cruise not take-off.

I made a no-flap take-off by accident once, not a good idea, and I was light with just me aboard.

I have a electric trim tab on the elevator, so trim changes are easy while retracting the flaps. May be a different story if I had a trim wheel or plans built trim where you could not do both at the same time easily, so I can see your point but still disagree, leave them down until able to retract.

Steve Alderman N25SA 360

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From: Matt <mattinlosangeles@yahoo.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 9, 2013 10:02 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Flaps on take-off?

I never use flaps on take off in my 360. If the runway is short to require them I would probably not use that runway.

I don't use them because making trim changes close to the ground isn't what I want to be doing. If I skip the flaps I get to skip one more distraction at that critical point in the flight. I set my trim for climb and don't mess with it till 1000 agl or higher.

Matt

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On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Dico Reijers <dico@internetworks.ca> wrote:

Hi All,

I am wondering how many people use flaps on take off with the IVP? I was told to use about 15 degrees of flaps. I've also discovered that I don't like retracting the flaps unless the IAS is about 135knots IAS. No real reason other than I notice that you don't really feel the retraction as much as you do at the lower speeds.

So I guess I am wondering, if you only have a couple people on board (or even a full load with lots of runway), do you use flaps?

-Dico

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