X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:10:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6368811 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:02:27 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.182; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2013 14:01:51 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.157] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2013 14:01:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2013 14:01:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 840494.34418.bm@omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4182 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jul 2013 14:01:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IkaSTZFhYwesfxtplfsPeiTLxtZmFEt6WRuEnXuCpFNrLXln7OV3VH60GdqFvI5LiZlauCZwjl5AbmcWgQQOynYwObI13xvqPRQvKrM9i68TRqHkXmDmxoZIk8hZHBWfh/SPYzdbu4m27JeDn8IiV4wINttWy1daxsBPzguBwvk= ; X-YMail-OSG: 62WlwkYVM1mA5qkMQ9W5kULNOGaBSwWc2uAWInbDzoMiu6O w.Es8FXF_i7IhHMt1wlxeBw2WfTViDTz25DQpEpb6HmLkAveP9EH48E4lguP CzowQcWcpE7XwrxHqxxQ_rzxnTC3MjkiSihZhwuijjpX3YKxbl3cbLXBaozq n4e5.1jCaDhFHylkhHm7grhbeVLA5B70GTDGObbZdkoKDR0yjeWiUFHClo15 XfSJOK22Q2keTtMJJxA3FyL2evAPnnk33Al_ZbXnLTYNgLjwSSABpD60TJaQ .tkc_gwfUQt9qn3AGnOX9afPQaLpHToNjbW4_5D.DnGowJzVrd2akmBduI2P hA.DWkWeuS6447WNQcrj_mYHaOZkjtOaZS4IhQksWMrGIyw9gE2gktMx.l.7 tpw73BiZmj7hJU19Rf19eSaIt4GBx1Yn222jnkM1JkbBeQlqL0Vz6ATY.Vjq HI5jo4No0VXGKA4rgohOlg2s.SFplFajo5ztiriJoU2VS9D5lt7HVTbiUFVL sg8wC2vut0MyIbvRNMiknoLmfp1nLHvWC.GmGMjkDcMm7Yj0Vr1HZ7s8jthq 8YM2d3GKSg73SbGZhpSyjaigAXnVL.PJk1L5BmHBfDTXvvYUVHkcfFBntK4x RqJWV6TFEHMymoVkmG1ztwwCUFnSNyKH4r7dlRilAeLw- Received: from [172.14.16.72] by web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:01:51 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,U3RldmUsCldoZXJlIGRpZCB0aGUgYWx0ZXJuYXRvciBnbz8KQ2hyaXMKCkZyb206IHN0ZXZlIDxuNTI3NmpAYW9sLmNvbT4KVG86IGxtbEBsYW5jYWlyb25saW5lLm5ldCAKU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIEp1bHkgMTEsIDIwMTMgNjoyMSBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbTE1MXSBSZTogZm9yd2FyZCBtb3VudGVkIGZ1ZWwgaW5qZWN0aW9uCgoKCkhhcnBlciwKCllvdSBjYW4gYnV5IGEgZm9yd2FyZCBmYWNpbmcgY29sZCBhaXIgaW50YWtlIGFuZCBzdW1wIGZyb20gQUVST8KgLiBZb3UgY2FuIGFsc28gZ2V0IGEgeSBzaGEBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.148.557 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1373551311.80753.YahooMailNeo@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Zavatson Reply-To: Chris Zavatson Subject: Re: [LML] Re: forward mounted fuel injection X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1977980688-1379825827-1373551311=:80753" ---1977980688-1379825827-1373551311=:80753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve,=0AWhere did the alternator go?=0AChris=0A=0AFrom: steve =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 6:21 AM= =0ASubject: [LML] Re: forward mounted fuel injection=0A=0A=0A=0AHarper,=0A= =0AYou can buy a forward facing cold air intake and sump from AERO=A0. You = can also get a y shaped tube with a shutter for either ram or filtered air = from Air flow performance. The down side is you will have to modified the c= owl air scoop=A0 and build a custom exhaust. The upside is more power and b= etter looking cowl.=A0=A0=0A=0ASteve Alderman=A0 N25SA=A0 360=0A-----Origin= al Message-----=0AFrom: Harper Jones =0ATo: lml = =0ASent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 1:37 pm=0ASubject: [LML] = Re: forward mounted fuel injection=0A=0A=0AChris,=0A=0AThis looks like some= thing that might work.=A0 I have a milling machine and a lathe and could ea= sily turn and mill those pieces.=A0 Do you know if there are any drawings w= andering around.=A0 Thanks.=0A=0AHarper=0A=0A=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net= =0ADate: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:29:31 -0400=0AFrom: chris_zavatson@yahoo.com=0A= Subject: [LML] Re: forward mounted fuel injection=0A=0A=0AHarper,=0AHere is= another one.=A0 The difficulty with any forward facing injector is the lim= ited space available forward of the injector.=A0 Using a 90 or 90+ deg elbo= w such as Johannes has is=A0quite popular.=A0 The cowl scoop is much deeper= in that case and from the outside will look more like a carbureted install= ation.=A0 =0AThe attached photos are of a=A0set-up using a K&N conical filt= er inside of a fiberglass diffuser (not yet trimmed in the photo).=A0 Alter= nate air is provided by rotating a ring at the aft end which causes the slo= ts=A0to open up.=0AThere is a lot of variety out there in IO induction syst= ems.=0A=A0=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Ahttp://www.n91cz.net/=0A=0AF= rom: Johannes Schredl =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent= : Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:15 AM=0ASubject: [LML] AW: forward mounted fuel i= njection=0A=0A=0A=0AHarper,=0A=A0=0Ai have a Lancair 320=A0 with an IO-320D= 1B and a 90=B0 forward swapped injector. I have not Chris=B4s cowling. In a= ddition I use a small air filter box with bypass. =0AHowever I have to say = my engine does not run very smooth in idle rpm. I =A0can=B4t tell this is c= aused by 90=B0 injector design.=0AHowever the cowling looks nice J=0A=A0=0A= Hans=0AD-ESWS. =0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0AVon:Harper Jones [mailto:crazydocjones@= hotmail.com?] =0AGesendet: Sonntag, 7. Juli 2013 23:02=0AAn: lml@lancaironl= ine.net=0ABetreff: forward mounted fuel injection=0A=0AHow have others hand= led the intake for a forward mounted=A0 fuel injection on a 320 with Chris = Zavatson's cowl?=A0 Do most people run a straight pipe from the cowl to the= injector body (w/ a flexible component) , pipe with a screen or a very sma= ll filter housing?=A0 =0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironl= ine.net:81/lists/lml/List.html=0A=0A=0A=0A-- For archives and unsub http://= mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub= http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ---1977980688-1379825827-1373551311=:80753 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve,
Where did the alternator go?
Chris

From: steve <n5276j@aol.com>
= To: lml@lancaironline.net
= Sent: Thursday, July 11, 20= 13 6:21 AM
Subject: [LML= ] Re: forward mounted fuel injection

Harper,
 
You can buy a forward facing cold air intake and sump from AERO .= You can also get a y shaped tube with a shutter for either ram or filtered= air from Air flow performance. The down side is you will have to modified = the cowl air scoop  and build a custom exhaust. The upside is more pow= er and better looking cowl.  
 
Steve Alderman  N25SA  360
-----Original Message-----
From: Harper Jones <crazydocjones@hotmail= .com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 201= 3 1:37 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: forward mounted fuel injection

Chris,

This looks like something that might work.&nbs= p; I have a milling machine and a lathe and could easily turn and mill thos= e pieces.  Do you know if there are any drawings wandering around.&nbs= p; Thanks.

Harper

To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:29:31 -0400
From: = chris_zavatson@yahoo.comSubject: [LML] Re: forward mounted fuel injection

Harper,
= Here is another one.  The difficulty with any forward facing injector = is the limited space available forward of the injector.  Using a 90 or= 90+ deg elbow such as Johannes has is quite popular.  The cowl s= coop is much deeper in that case and from the outside will look more like a= = carbureted installation. 
= The attached photos are of a set-up using a K&N conical filter ins= ide of a fiberglass diffuser (not yet trimmed in the photo).  Alternat= e air is provided by rotating a ring at the aft end which causes the slots&= nbsp;to open up.
= There is a lot of variety out there in IO induction systems.
=  
= Chris Zavatson
= N91CZ
= 360std
= http://www.n91cz.net/

From: Johannes Schredl &l= t;jschredl@web.de>
To: lml@l= ancaironline.net
Sent:<= /B> Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:15 AM
S= ubject: [LML] AW: forward mounted fuel injection

Harper= ,
 =
i have a Lancair 320  with an IO-320D1B and a 90=B0 forward swa= pped injector. I have not Chris=B4s cowling. In addition I use a small air = filter box with bypass.
However I have to say my engine does not run very smooth in idle rpm= . I  can=B4t tell this is caused by 90=B0 injector design.
However the cowling looks nice J 
Hans
D-ESWS= .
 =
 =
 =
Von: Harper Jones [mailto:crazydocjones@hotmail.= com?]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Juli 2013 23:02
An: lml@lancaironline.net
Betreff= : forward mounted fuel injection
 
How have others handled the intake for a forwa= rd mounted  fuel injection on a 320 with Chris Zavatson's cowl?  = Do most people run a straight pipe from the cowl to the injector body (w/ a= flexible component) , pipe with a screen or a very small filter housing?&n= bsp;

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