X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6346478 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:30:17 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.64; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=d+AAFrZ6TB0L9jtd894S+zevZxbrRxOuNqn/1ijJkemhElSwaOL3ebIrvPgtRHKH; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.20.45.115] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ur8i5-0000zp-Bq for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:29:41 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-66-791073195 Subject: Re: [LML] Power for ES Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:29:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Message-Id: <15B373B7-4B9D-4499-80F9-23278A0C4BCE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9406ebd1330853cf0051ae349451b6e78e9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.20.45.115 --Apple-Mail-66-791073195 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed, Some on the list are going to laugh knowing my experience, but at the = risk of that let me throw this out there: - The very coolest feature about your airplane will be that it flies. = Everything else is fine tuning and to the extent you spend time on it, = it prevents appearance of the very coolest feature. - Stay with stuff that has already shipped, in thousands of units. = Stuff that has not shipped yet, probably will not have when you are = done. Stuff that has shipped in hundreds of units probably "sorta = works". Even some stuff that has shipped in a couple thousand units is = not well engineered. It's buyer beware. Do your homework. - The one thing you can't redo later is the weight and precision of the = build. Build it light and strong and precise, get it flying, buy "good = enough" avionics at the last possible moment, and enjoy 5 years flying = it while your peers make theirs perfect. At that point you will know = what might really change your life and you can redo a few things. I would recommend a IO-550. Either factory new or rebuilt by an = excellent shop like BPE. Colyn On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Ed Gray wrote: Just starting on our ES fastbuild, so 2 or 3 years away from engine = decision. Love the concept of the Deltahawk 200 hp. They say they are = 1-2 years away from cert. engines, experimental sooner. 200 hp should = be plenty for takeoff, since much more torque available, and the 200 is = there all the way up to flight levels. Fuel savings in 2000 hours will = pay for the engine, plus no worries about 100 LL. Anyone else looking = at this engine? Ed Gray --Apple-Mail-66-791073195 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ed,

Some on the list are going = to laugh knowing my experience, but at the risk of that let me throw = this out there:

- The very coolest feature = about your airplane will be that it flies. Everything else is = fine tuning and to the extent you spend time on it, it prevents = appearance of the very coolest feature.

- Stay with stuff that = has already shipped, in thousands of units. Stuff that has not = shipped yet, probably will not have when you are done. Stuff that = has shipped in hundreds of units probably "sorta works". Even = some stuff that has shipped in a couple thousand units is not well = engineered. It's buyer beware. Do your = homework.

- The one thing you can't redo later is the weight = and precision of the build. Build it light and strong and precise, get = it flying, buy "good enough" avionics at the last possible moment, and = enjoy 5 years flying it while your peers make theirs perfect. At = that point you will know what might really change your life and you can = redo a few things.

I would recommend a IO-550. = Either factory new or rebuilt by an excellent shop like = BPE.

Colyn

On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Ed Gray wrote:

Just starting on our ES = fastbuild, so 2 or 3 years away from engine decision. Love the = concept of the Deltahawk 200 hp. They say they are 1-2 years away = from cert. engines, experimental sooner. 200 hp should be plenty = for takeoff, since much more torque available, and the 200 is there all = the way up to flight levels. Fuel savings in 2000 hours will pay = for the engine, plus no worries about 100 LL. Anyone else looking = at this engine? Ed = Gray

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