X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com ([209.85.220.54] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6346109 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:34:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.54; envelope-from=2thman1@gmail.com Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id kx10so11038110pab.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.212.106 with SMTP id nj10mr23525875pbc.74.1372080856701; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.1.109] ([24.56.209.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qi1sm19925792pac.21.2013.06.24.06.34.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:34:14 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D7671693-1828-4772-B5F9-2F30F1BD3E70 X-Original-Message-Id: <027CF3D7-7FB4-444D-A34A-F1998AFD8CCE@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Power for ES X-Original-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:34:11 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-D7671693-1828-4772-B5F9-2F30F1BD3E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ask Dave Morss what he thinks. I've heard he has a different opinion. Regards, John Barrett Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2013, at 5:32 AM, "Skip Slater" wrote: > Ed, > I don't know a lot about the DeltaHawk engine, but I think you may come= to regret only putting a 200 hp engine in an ES. Yes it'll fly, but takeof= f, climb and cruise numbers will be significantly lower. There's a reason t= he Cont IO-360 powered ES didn't last very long. > Most flying ES's have between 300 and 350 hp engines and I don't think y= ou'll find any of their owners out there wishing they had that much less pow= er. It's like the difference between a Cirrus SR-20 and SR-22 - completely d= ifferent class of performance. I've heard DeltaHawk is working on a 300 hp e= ngine. Since you have some time before you'll be buying a power plant for y= our kit, I'd recommend you wait and see if that one is ready in time and foc= us on it. In the meantime, I'd do some homework by contacting anyone with a= IO-360 powered ES, asking their thoughts and seeing if you can fly in one. = Then compare that to a 550 powered model. =46rom my standpoint, there's no= comparison. > My .02, > Skip Slater > N540ES --Apple-Mail-D7671693-1828-4772-B5F9-2F30F1BD3E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ask Dave Morss what he thinks. I've heard he has a different opinion.

Regards,

John Barrett

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2013, at 5:32 AM, "Skip Slater" <skipslater@verizon.net> wrote:

Ed,

   I don't know a lot about the DeltaHawk engine, but I think you may come to regret only putting a 200 hp engine in an ES. Yes it'll fly, but takeoff, climb and cruise numbers will be significantly lower. There's a reason the Cont IO-360 powered ES didn't last very long.

   Most flying ES's have between 300 and 350 hp engines and I don't think you'll find any of their owners out there wishing they had that much less power. It's like the difference between a Cirrus SR-20 and SR-22 - completely different class of performance. I've heard DeltaHawk is working on a 300 hp engine. Since you have some time before you'll be buying a power plant for your kit, I'd recommend you wait and see if that one is ready in time and focus on it. In the meantime, I'd do some homework by contacting anyone with a IO-360 powered ES, asking their thoughts and seeing if you can fly in one. Then compare that to a 550 powered model. From my standpoint, there's no comparison.

   My .02,

   Skip Slater

   N540ES

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