Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #65620
From: Bill Harrelson <n5zq@verizon.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Loss of power on takeoff
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 17:40:03 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Angier,

I practice this maneuver and know at what altitude I could first turn back for each take off. When I first started working with this maneuver, I started at altitude, pulled power from a climb, did NOTHING for a slow count of 3, then pushed the nose down hard and turned aggressively.  I made a 270 in one direction and a 90 in the other. From that point I noted how much altitude I had lost from the initial power pull. (the 3 second delay and the 270 - 90 add in some fudge factor).  I would still continue straight ahead in MOST situations if I lost power on take off. Knowing at what altitude this maneuver is POSSIBLE does put another tool in you tool box in case a straight ahead landing is very clearly inadvisable. I would caution anyone who intends to practice this maneuver to do so at high altitude until you are completely comfortable. While there are situations where this maneuver could save your life, it is also quite possible to get you into a considerably worse situation than a straight ahead landing unless you are well practiced with it, know when you cross the "maneuver possible" threshold on every take off, and initiate the maneuver immediately upon engine loss.

Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs.
N6ZQ  IV 300 hrs.





-----Original Message----- From: Greenbacks, UnLtd.
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 1:29 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Loss of power on takeoff

The current issue of Sport Aviation included an article from Dave Morss with 180º turns on takeoff to return to the runway. Before practicing such a maneuver, I thought I'd check in here with the local gurus with regard to 320/360
operations. In the article, it is stated that a 500' 70º bank 180º turn is doable so I'll be practicing this aggressively at altitude. But then again, my skill level might be at his ankle level on a good day. So, how many of you practice this turn,
and with or without any flap setting, etc.?

Angier Ames
N4ZQ
32hrs
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