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From: "Bill Harrelson" <n5zq@verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Loss of power on takeoff
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Angier,

I practice this maneuver and know at what altitude I could first turn back 
for each take off. When I first started working with this maneuver, I 
started at altitude, pulled power from a climb, did NOTHING for a slow count 
of 3, then pushed the nose down hard and turned aggressively.  I made a 270 
in one direction and a 90 in the other. From that point I noted how much 
altitude I had lost from the initial power pull. (the 3 second delay and the 
270 - 90 add in some fudge factor).  I would still continue straight ahead 
in MOST situations if I lost power on take off. Knowing at what altitude 
this maneuver is POSSIBLE does put another tool in you tool box in case a 
straight ahead landing is very clearly inadvisable. I would caution anyone 
who intends to practice this maneuver to do so at high altitude until you 
are completely comfortable. While there are situations where this maneuver 
could save your life, it is also quite possible to get you into a 
considerably worse situation than a straight ahead landing unless you are 
well practiced with it, know when you cross the "maneuver possible" 
threshold on every take off, and initiate the maneuver immediately upon 
engine loss.

Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs.
N6ZQ  IV 300 hrs.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Greenbacks, UnLtd.
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 1:29 PM
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Subject: [LML] Re: Loss of power on takeoff

The current issue of Sport Aviation included an article from Dave Morss with 
180º turns on takeoff to return to the runway. Before practicing such a 
maneuver, I thought I'd check in here with the local gurus with regard to 
320/360
operations. In the article, it is stated that a 500' 70º bank 180º turn is 
doable so I'll be practicing this aggressively at altitude. But then again, 
my skill level might be at his ankle level on a good day. So, how many of 
you practice this turn,
and with or without any flap setting, etc.?

Angier Ames
N4ZQ
32hrs
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