X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com ([209.85.223.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6302160 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:05:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.223.174; envelope-from=billhogarty@gmail.com Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id aq17so7018069iec.33 for ; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=jYPpCF4nqZrgbrSBv9UCApYyKsHI24hXhxAzprt310I=; b=t24FlJWeIXMyUQ6jjLLGfFxOgWHxG5QHAvpK4gevCIUT1cwZrMuhnb7mP6FY7ZSNUD v1CEbbBhJAX+0u6cazRZwHKqWPa1Oz9YPpKvmlPdwL3jsVKfH57sZY0QNnC64jEIIEFe tEvodatsVT5b23kGwnZy0FW7otUBao0p2B1zxiVadXFZZeEnodpxG6pzZZJy791zVbvL 40QWvmg9X8Fd4nvdvNW++O/SGf9G4Uetq4ZtjWBo1O5nZXROU3vU1CJ4hMgNCxZlOw5V nlOlmTounTrQeHqbNC/g6Grj7oDfA0TeYxBcOyKNHd7v9mpX/ak6y8UqNNAgIQ+OG7Qq 70Kg== X-Received: by 10.50.152.34 with SMTP id uv2mr4362166igb.11.1370113481807; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.5.175] (ip-64-134-237-13.public.wayport.net. [64.134.237.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jj6sm9380149igb.6.2013.06.01.12.04.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Jun 2013 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Loss of power on takeoff References: From: billhogarty@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:04:32 -0700 To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) I have practiced the survival turn. The secret is to get the nose down firs= t. In my 4P, my minimum altitude is 1000 ft. 60 - 70 degree bank is doable= but only with the nose down . BTW, a 180 turn will not get you back to the runway. 135 maybe. Good luck Bill Hogarty On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:29 AM, "Greenbacks, UnLtd." wrote: > The current issue of Sport Aviation included an article from Dave Morss wi= th 180=C2=BA turns on takeoff to return to the runway. Before practicing suc= h a maneuver, I thought I'd check in here with the local gurus with regard t= o 320/360 > operations. In the article, it is stated that a 500' 70=C2=BA bank 180=C2=BA= turn is doable so I'll be practicing this aggressively at altitude. But the= n again, my skill level might be at his ankle level on a good day. So, how m= any of you practice this turn,=20 > and with or without any flap setting, etc.? >=20 > Angier Ames > N4ZQ > 32hrs > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l