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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Traveling with a dog
From: Don Karich <donkarich@gmail.com>
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I regularly fly with my 19 lbs dog and use the soft hutch which i can unzip
the top enough to let his head stick out.if I'm alone i bring him up front
cause he loves to look out. I caution you if he's a chewer watch out for
wire bundles
On May 2, 2013 2:21 PM, "Joseph Czabaranek" <joeczabaranek@gmail.com> wrote:

> I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360.
>
>  I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of your
> car.  My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the phenolic
> hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog.  A U-bolt
> anchor on each side, 3/16" cord from REI between the two, and an 18" long
> "shockle" made from 1" tubular webbing and bungee cord keeps him secure in
> the back but free to stand up and turn around.  I made the shockle, but I
> know you can buy one.
>
> I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla.  I have medium muffs for my 65lb
> greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as
> hell).  The dogs resisted them at first but now they'll keep them on for
> the duration of a 6hr flight.  Before Ive cleared the runway after
> touchdown they strip em off.  The muffs must be doing something positive
> for them.
>
> Your dog wont need 02.  If your only responsibility is sitting in the back
> seat, you are fine below 25,000.   At 16k cognitive ability might be
> reduced and the pup might have an easier time sleeping but no harm done.
>
> Joe Cz
> N424DH
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin <dballin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>    This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on
>> taking a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy.
>>
>> Issues are:
>> Crate- thinking about a soft crate.  Hard to imagine getting something
>> bigger in the back
>>
>> Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs
>>
>> O2  - Going over the Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any
>> experience with dogs?  Any vets out there?
>>
>> Dan Ballin
>> LEG2 N386DM  about 120 hrs
>>
>
>

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<p>I regularly fly with my 19 lbs dog and use the soft hutch which i can un=
zip the top enough to let his head stick out.if I&#39;m alone i bring him u=
p front cause he loves to look out. I caution you if he&#39;s a chewer watc=
h out for wire bundles</p>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 2, 2013 2:21 PM, &quot;Joseph Czabaranek&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joeczabaranek@gmail.com">joeczabaranek@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360.=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of=
 your car.=A0 My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the p=
henolic hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog.=A0 A U-=
bolt anchor on each side, 3/16&quot; cord from REI between the two, and an =
18&quot; long &quot;shockle&quot; made from 1&quot; tubular webbing and bun=
gee cord keeps him secure in the back but free to stand up and turn around.=
=A0 I made the shockle, but I know you can buy one.</div>


<div>=A0</div>
<div>I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla.=A0 I have medium muffs for my 65=
lb greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as hel=
l).=A0 The dogs resisted them at first but now they&#39;ll keep them on for=
 the duration of a 6hr flight.=A0 Before Ive cleared the runway after touch=
down they strip em off.=A0 The muffs must be doing something positive for t=
hem.</div>


<div>=A0</div>
<div>Your dog wont need 02.=A0 If your only responsibility is sitting in th=
e back seat,=A0you are fine below 25,000.=A0=A0 At 16k cognitive ability mi=
ght be reduced and the pup=A0might have an easier time sleeping but no harm=
 done.</div>


<div>=A0</div>
<div>Joe Cz</div>
<div>N424DH=A0=A0 <br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dballin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dba=
llin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
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<div>
<div>This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on takin=
g a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy.<br><br></div>Issues are:<br></div>Crate- thi=
nking about a soft crate.=A0 Hard to imagine getting something bigger in th=
e back<br>

<br></div>Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs<br><br></div>O2=A0 - Going over the=
 Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any experience with dogs?=A0=
 Any vets out there?<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br></font></span></d=
iv>

<span><font color=3D"#888888">Dan Ballin<br></font></span></div><span><font=
 color=3D"#888888">LEG2 N386DM=A0 about 120 hrs<br></font></span></div></bl=
ockquote></div><br>
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