X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:58:40 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from pit-mailgw-01.smarsh.com ([199.47.168.11] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.3) with ESMTPS id 6163035 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:15:31 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=199.47.168.11; envelope-from=ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com Received: from [10.6.1.121] (helo=pit-dlpsvc-02.smarshinc.com) by pit-mailgw-01.smarsh.com with esmtp (Smarsh SMTP 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1ULGPf-0004hM-JQ for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:14:55 -0400 Received: from [10.6.0.110] (helo=cambridge.smarsh.com)by pit-obdlp-05.smarsh.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)(Smarsh SMTP 4.77)(envelope-from )id 1ULGOl-0007sZ-2Mfor lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:13:59 -0400 Received: from ([173.163.46.146]) by cambridge.smarsh.com (IceWarp 10.4.4) with ASMTP (SSL) id NUP25355 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:13:55 -0400 From: "Gordon Porter" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: FW: Undeliverable mail: Fw: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing with beads X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:14:23 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <055501ce2bd7$b2d50130$187f0390$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0556_01CE2BB6.2BC36130" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4r1z6v91TCdWQDTk+bQtHmbWxMJAAADdmg Content-Language: en-us X-Smarsh-Out: 1 X-Smarsh-Out-CID: cid14628smarsh X-Smarsh-PID: 1ULGOl-0007sZ-2M ckx-imap-uid: 1618 ckx-imap-isUid: YES ckx-imap-seen: NO ckx-imap-answered: NO ckx-imap-deleted: NO ckx-imap-flagged: NO ckx-imap-draft: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0556_01CE2BB6.2BC36130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ceramic beads for tire balancing... anyone familiar? Seems like a cool idea and a lot better/easier than weights. Maybe someone is using currently using this method? I currently don't balance my airplane wheels... maybe I should. And, maybe we can pour a bag or two into the spinner to balance the prop.....just kidding on that part! Gordon ES N144GP ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: gary winkler To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:50 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing with beads Gary, Here is the web site for the beads and explians what they do and how it works. You can always type in Google, Ceramic Beads for tire balancing, and numerous items pop up. I used 1 oz per tire as, they suggested 2 oz for my front motor cycle tire, so since our tire or only used during taxi, takeoff and landings, and a heck of alot smaller, figured 1 oz would be fine, and so far so good. I am attaching a web site and a link to whee to by the kit. Also remember when installing the beads to have the value stem anywhere from 10 to 2 oclock position so when they are inserted in the value stem they fall to the bottom of the tire, once all in, screw in the new value stem and add air to the tires. They have ceramic and stainless steel beads. I use the ceramic. Gary http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.php This is the kit with everything..... http://www.amazon.com/Counteract-Motorcycle-Internal-Balancing-Beads/dp/B008 BTN83S/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive &ie=UTF8&qid=1364485739&sr=1-1&keywords=balancing+beads From: barnett6088@msn.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:25:34 -0700 Gary Where do you buy the beads? I assume they are small enough to fit through the valve stem. Thanks for the idea. Gary B. gbsss@bendbroadband.com From: winky53@hotmail.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:53:39 +0000 Lightning All, I have used ceramic beads to balance a tires. I was told about these the last time I put new tires on my motorcycle. I run a KUMO run flat care tire on the rear of my Honda Goldwing with 3 ounces of beads and 2 ounces of beads in the front and the ride is great. No matter what speed I am traveling the beads will move within the tire to balance it. I decided to added 1 ounce of ceramic beads inside each tube on my rear Lightning tires and have found they run great. With the cost of tires I run retreads, and they balance perfect no matter what speed I appy to them. Ceramic beads are used on 18 wheelers and car tires for a long time. As a tire wears, the balance changes and with stick on weights or rim weights the lead never moves and tires will get out of balance after some mileage. The ceramic beads always are moving and can be reused. Just some other food for thought. Gary Lightning N428GW > Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing > From: bill@gdsx.com > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:25:43 -0700 > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > > --> Lightning-List message posted by: "Bill Strahan" > > Two points: > > First, this idea came from an old R/C prop balancer I had. It was like the magnetic balancer, but was just a shaft, two tapered cones, and the shaft had pointed ends. You just held it very lightly between your fingers. When I saw the magnetic balancer, I adapted that $3 balancer to a magnetic version with some old hard drive magnets and a 2X4. Worked perfectly. > > This version obviously requires much larger magnets. :) Same idea though. As to prop balancing, no need to bother with a static balance. I have a dnya-vibe and hook that up and run the wires through the heater butterfly box into the cabin so I can take readings at cruise speed and then balance for that specific RPM. When I get it just right, you can tell the increase in vibration on either side of 2850. At that specific RPM it's like glass. > > I posted another video with some more detail if anyone wants to recreate my balancer setup. http://youtu.be/53mUcjocNUQ > > If you're near DFW, drop by F69 if you want to borrow it. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397150#397150 > > > > > > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://forums.matronics.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-============================================================ _-= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - _-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse _-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, _-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, _-= Photoshare, and much much more: _-= _-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List _-= _-============================================================ _-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - _-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! _-= _-= --> http://forums.matronics.com/ _-= _-============================================================ _-= - List Contribution Web Site - _-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-============================================================ ------=_NextPart_000_0556_01CE2BB6.2BC36130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ceramic beads for tire balancing...  anyo= ne familiar?  Seems like a cool idea and a lot better/easier than w= eights.  Maybe someone is using currently using this method?

 

I currently don't balance my airplane wheels... maybe I should.

 

And, maybe we can pour a ba= g or two into the spinner to balance the prop.....just kidding on that p= art!

 

Gordon 

 

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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: gary win= kler <winky53@hotmail.com&= gt;
To: lightn= ing-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:= 50 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balanci= ng with beads

 

Gary,  Here is the web site for the beads and explians what they d= o and how it works.  You can always type in Google, Ceramic Beads f= or tire balancing, and numerous items pop up.  I used 1 oz per tire= as, they suggested 2 oz for my front motor cycle tire, so since our tir= e or only used during taxi, takeoff and landings, and a heck of alot sma= ller, figured 1 oz would be fine, and so far so good.   I am a= ttaching a web site and a link to whee to by the kit.  Also remembe= r when installing the beads to have the value stem anywhere from 10= to 2 oclock position so when they are inserted in the value stem they f= all to the bottom of the tire, once all in, screw in the new value stem = and add air to the tires. They have ceramic and stainless steel beads. I= use the ceramic.
 
Gary

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.php=
 
 
This is the kit with everything.....
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From: barnett6088@msn.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE= : Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 201= 3 17:25:34 -0700

Gary
Where do you buy = the beads?  I assume they are small enough to fit through the = valve stem.  Thanks for the idea.  Gary B. gbsss@bendbroadband.com  

From: winky53@hotmail.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Date: We= d, 27 Mar 2013 14:53:39 +0000

Lightning Al= l,  I have used ceramic beads to balance a tires. I was told about = these the last time I put new tires on my motorcycle. I run a KUMO run f= lat care tire on the rear of my Honda Goldwing with 3 ounces of beads an= d 2 ounces of beads in the front and the ride is great.  No matter = what speed I am traveling the beads will move within the tire to ba= lance it. 
 
I decided to added 1 ounce of ceramic bead= s inside each tube on my rear Lightning tires and have found they run&nb= sp;great. With the cost of tires I run retreads, and they balance perfec= t no matter what speed I appy to them. Ceramic beads are used on 18= wheelers and car tires for a long time. As a tire wears, the = balance changes and with stick on weights or rim weights the lead never = moves and tires will get out of balance after some mileage.  The ce= ramic beads always are moving and can be reused.  Just some other f= ood for thought.
 
Gary
Lightning N428GW 
 

> Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodo= x Tire Balancing
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