X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:46:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with SMTP id 5880391 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:52:31 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 14389 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2012 05:51:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; h=X-Originating-IP:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; s=default; d=carbinge.com; b=GaVa6UhyGTzn3wAUDp1Ycrn50Jc2HAWFRGs8jcKoP1BwURQqzKqIzD8hFiJ2S+Ym0je3oEyRn7cWVvi5YqT6D3IH+8Cfd5emv7BrHzLfELTJhyna+f9Djz6Zk6h3r46SuFNkGQI6PBUY130Qypzzsdv9M++kpM67dXUSe3Vabwo=; X-Originating-IP: [66.235.58.245] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Pressurization - IVP X-Original-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:51:55 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <009b01cdc2f5$523d2f50$f6b78df0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01CDC2B2.4419EF50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac3CZ9oXPueLJBnwRzaHgaY0U5RJrwAjP4NA Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01CDC2B2.4419EF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charlie's suggestion is the most creative I saw - I especially like the disclaimer. I really appreciate all the input and have to apologize for not stating that there are bulkhead fittings in the root of the aft spar. I was thinking it would be difficult to silicone the box perimeter of the spar entry cuff - especially the back side so I was thinking to use the cover boxes for that effort. I think now that the best way is to simply seal the cuff with silicone because bottom line it will be much cleaner and easier than trying to seal up the box. Thanks to all. John From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Kohler Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:59 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Pressurization - IVP here is an old trick I used. using scrap pieces of fiberglass cut to make a boot similar to what we have around our control stick. On a clean nonstick surface, coat of fiberglass with an even, generous slathering of silicone. Then work this piece around the tubing and over the whole just as you did when you cut it. Make sure there is a generous bond area and support from behind so that it will support a minimum 10 PSI. the fiberglass impregnated with the silicone is incredibly strong-- but don't trust it. Charlie K. See me on the web at www.Lancair-IV.com _____ From: William A. Hogarty To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Pressurization - IVP John: I used RTV to seal all the wiring coming in from the wings, along with the speedbrake cables and pitot tube. I also cut out openings in the two covers that cover the rear spar bolts. I installed nutplates and then made covers with gaskets so that I could remove the wings without surgery. At Las Vegas last month, I removed the wings, start to finish including fuel dump, in slightly less that 4 hours. ( I hope you have better luck than I did) Regards, Bill H. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:11 PM, John Barrett wrote: I'm attempting to button up the pressure vessel in preparation for first pressurization. These two photos are of boxes to seal off the aft spars where they enter the cockpit just in front of the rear seat on the floor. Any thoughts on a good way to seal off these fuel lines? Thanks, John Barrett The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: IMG_0591 IMG_0592 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01CDC2B2.4419EF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Charlie’s suggestion is the most creative I saw – I = especially like the disclaimer.

 

I really appreciate all the input and have to apologize for not = stating that there are bulkhead fittings in the root of the aft = spar.  I was thinking it would be difficult to silicone the box = perimeter of the spar entry cuff – especially the back side so I = was thinking to use the cover boxes for that effort.  I think now = that the best way is to simply seal the cuff with silicone because = bottom line it will be much cleaner and easier than trying to seal up = the box.

 

Thanks to all.

 

John

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Charlie Kohler
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:59 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = Pressurization - IVP

 

here is an old = trick I used. 

using scrap = pieces of fiberglass cut to make a boot similar to what we have around = our control stick. On a clean nonstick surface, coat of fiberglass with = an even, generous slathering of silicone. Then work this piece around = the tubing and over the whole just as you did when you cut it. Make sure = there is a generous bond area and support from behind so that it will = support a minimum 10 PSI.

the fiberglass = impregnated with the silicone is incredibly strong--  but don't = trust it.

Charlie = K.

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See me on the web = at

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F= rom: = William A. Hogarty <billhogarty@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net =
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: = [LML] Re: Pressurization - IVP

 

John:

 

I used RTV to seal all the wiring coming in = from the wings, along with the speedbrake cables and pitot = tube.

 

I also cut out openings in the two covers = that cover the rear spar bolts.  = I installed 

nutplates and then made covers with gaskets = so that I could remove the wings = without 

surgery.

 

At Las Vegas last month, I removed the wings, = start to finish including fuel dump, in slightly less that 4 = hours.  ( I hope you have better luck than I = did)

 

Regards, Bill = H.

On Mon, Nov 12, = 2012 at 2:11 PM, John Barrett <jbarrett@carbinge.com> = wrote:

I'm attempting to button up the pressure vessel in = preparation for first
pressurization.  These two photos are of = boxes to seal off the aft spars
where they enter the cockpit just in = front of the rear seat on the floor.

Any thoughts on a good way = to seal off these fuel lines?

Thanks,
John = Barrett


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