Return-Path: Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.62]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:34:18 -0400 Received: from computername (1Cust188.tnt9.grapevine.tx.da.uu.net [63.11.8.188]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA04695 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 20:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e01c004d8$b5a1c9e0$bc080b3f@computername> From: "Skip Slater" To: Subject: Re: Computed AOA Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 20:43:55 -0700 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> John, I seem to have struck a nerve. My point wasn't to criticize the SFS system per se (which I've seen but haven't flown) but to question the accuracy of a computed AOA which is susceptible to user input errors and assumptions about weight's effect on lift versus a display derived simply from a sensor like Proprietary Software System's (PSS). I agree it isn't going to be accurate in all flight regimes where you may be at partial flaps or gear, but then it isn't designed to be as capable as what you see in jets. As Jim pointed out, a vane or sensor the type of which we flew in the Navy can't be put on a propellor powered plane like a Lancair. As for how accurate his system is, only Jim can answer that. I'm sure the PSS AOA system gives a stall warning with a few knots to spare; it should. But beyond a simple stall warning, you can visually see on the display where your AOA is. While that may not be of much use in cruise, it sure could be in establishing a best angle glide in the event of an engine failure, which would be accurate for any weight. An example of when you could really use an accurate L/D max display is in an extremis situation such as a wake turbulance, mountain wave or windshear type episode where you want to be squeezing all the Bernoullis of lift possible from your wing. In a case like that, you need to know how far beyond a stall warning you can take your plane before it starts falling. I don't know of a better system available to us to determine that than the type Jim makes. Granted, we may only be talking about a few knots difference between the two systems, but that's significant to me. I concur with you that the SFS system is impressive in it's sophistification and complexity and I'm sure you'll be happy with it's AOA display. Heck, I'd like to have a SFS system myself if I could afford one. But even if I could, I'd still be installing a PSS AOA as well. Cheers, Skip >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>