X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:03:45 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp003.mac.com ([17.158.58.248] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTP id 5758389 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:14:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.248; envelope-from=gw5@me.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/xjnOeMQYEHswBkS9V+MrA)" Received: from [192.168.1.70] (99-178-172-59.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net [99.178.172.59]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MA8009JBHV42L30@nk11p08mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:13:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-12_03:2012-09-12,2012-09-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209120067 From: George Wehrung X-Original-Message-id: <385BE893-DC6A-48E8-97D8-F243668C41BE@me.com> Subject: ES on Grass X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:13:52 -0400 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) --Boundary_(ID_/xjnOeMQYEHswBkS9V+MrA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks for the input guys. Looking at a house that's on the end of a grass strip which could be very nice place to keep the airplane once I turn one of the shops into a hangar. Has anyone ever landed at N21 Holly Ridge in NC? On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote: > Lancair Mailing List Digest #3903 > > 1) Re: FW: Value of Lancair IV-PT? > by > 2) Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks > by George Wehrung > 3) Re: Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks > by Ron Galbraith > 4) Re: Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks > by don Grabiel > > This digest is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > For archives and help click http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/Lists/lml/List.html > LML website: http://www.lancaironline.net/maillist.html > > From: > Subject: Re: FW: Value of Lancair IV-PT? > Date: September 11, 2012 12:19:32 PM EDT > To: > > > > > Posted for Robert R Pastusek : > > Lancair Flyers, > > I received the following email from Jenny Hayden in California, and followed > up with a call to her about her dad's airplane. > If any of you could refer her to a qualified appraiser, or would be > interested in this airplane, please contact her via email above. > Please also encourage her, as I did, to require anyone, including her > brother, to have flight training in this aircraft before trying to "take it > out for a spin." > Thanks, > Bob P > For LOBO > > From: Jenny Hayden [mailto:ejennyhayden@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:50 PM > To: Robert R Pastusek > Subject: Value of Lancair IV-PT? > > Hi Bob, > > I got your information from the Lancair Mailing List and saw that you are > very active on it. I'm thinking that you know a lot about Lancairs and > perhaps point me in the right direction. My Dad built a Lancair IV-PT and > finished it in 2006. He passed away last November and I'm trying to > understand how much it is worth. My brother is interested in taking it from > the estate. My Dad left his estate 50/50 to myself and my brother, so we are > trying to figure out what the value of the plane should be if he were to take > it from the estate. Any idea on the value based on the specs below? Is there > a certified appraiser that you know that understands the nuances of Lancairs > in particular and would give an accurate value? > > Here are the specs of the plane and I'm attaching a picture of the outside (I > don't have a full picture of the avionics panel): > > Engine: Walter 601D > > Avionics: > Garmin GMA 340 Audio panel > Garmin GNS430W WAAS GPS/NAV/Com with Glide slope indicator > Garmin SL 30 NAV/Com > Garmin GTX330 Mode S transponder with TIS > Tru-Trak Sorcerer Autopilot > Single screen Chelton SV Efis System > Garmin GMX 200 MFD with traffic. > > It is pressurized > > There is A/C > > No de-ice on the wings. > > If you would be willing to have a quick phone chat I'd love to talk a little > bit about it with you. My phone number is below. > > Thanks so much! > Jenny Hayden > > > -- > Jenny Hayden > tel: (1) 415 308 5944 > mailto:ejennyhayden@gmail.com > > > > > From: George Wehrung > Subject: Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks > Date: September 11, 2012 12:19:46 PM EDT > To: lml@lancaironline.net > > > Does anyone know if there are limitations to landing the ES on grass strips? Is it advisable to remove the wheel pants and/or put larger tires on the main and nose gear? > > Thanks > > > > > > From: Ron Galbraith > Subject: Re: [LML] Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks > Date: September 11, 2012 1:51:53 PM EDT > To: lml@lancaironline.net > > > The ES handles grass just fine with the wheel pants on. The only big problem is if the runway is a little rough, the old strut will not be able to handle the shimmy damping. It's imperative to have the new style strut. I test flew an ES in Bolivia that had the latest mods and factory service on an old style (but brand new) strut. It worked ok for about 4 landings and after that there was completely no shimmy dampening. Installed the new style strut and it's been good every since. Joaquin will probably tell more about it since he's here on the list too > > Ron > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:19 PM, George Wehrung wrote: > >> Does anyone know if there are limitations to landing the ES on grass strips? Is it advisable to remove the wheel pants and/or put larger tires on the main and nose gear? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> -- >> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > > > From: don Grabiel > Subject: Re: [LML] Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks > Date: September 11, 2012 1:51:53 PM EDT > To: lml@lancaironline.net > > > George, I try to stay off grass. I have in the past but it shaacks the $%#& out of the panel and nose gear, which is connected to the motor mount. In a pinch yes. Not on a regular basis. > > On Sep 11, 2012 12:21 PM, "George Wehrung" wrote: > Does anyone know if there are limitations to landing the ES on grass strips? Is it advisable to remove the wheel pants and/or put larger tires on the main and nose gear? > > Thanks > > > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > --Boundary_(ID_/xjnOeMQYEHswBkS9V+MrA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable lml@lancaironline.net> = wrote:
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1) Re: FW: Value of Lancair IV-PT?
=    by <marv@lancair.net>
2) Landing = the ES on grass or Turf airparks
   by George Wehrung = <gw5@me.com>
3) Re: Landing = the ES on grass or Turf airparks
   by Ron Galbraith = <cfi@instructor.net>
= 4) Re: Landing the ES on grass or Turf airparks
   by = don Grabiel <grabiel71@gmail.com>

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Subject: = Re: FW: Value of Lancair = IV-PT?
Date: September 11, 2012 12:19:32 PM = EDT




Posted for Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com>:

= Lancair Flyers,

I received the following email from Jenny = Hayden in California, and followed
up with a call to her about her dad's airplane.
If any of you could refer = her to a qualified appraiser, or would be
interested in this = airplane, please contact her via email above.
Please also encourage her, as I = did, to require anyone, including her
brother, to have flight = training in this aircraft before trying to "take it
out for a spin."
= Thanks,
Bob P
For LOBO

From: Jenny Hayden [mailto:ejennyhayden@gmail.com]
= Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:50 PM
To: Robert R Pastusek
= Subject: Value of Lancair IV-PT?

Hi Bob,

I got your information from the Lancair Mailing List and = saw that you are
very active on it.  I'm thinking that you = know a lot about Lancairs and
perhaps point me in the right = direction.  My Dad built a Lancair IV-PT and
finished it = in 2006.  He passed away last November and I'm trying to
understand how much it = is worth.  My brother is interested in taking it from
the estate.  My Dad left his estate 50/50 to myself and my = brother, so we are
trying to figure out what the value of the plane = should be if he were to take
it from the estate.  Any idea on the value = based on the specs below?  Is there
a certified appraiser = that you know that understands the nuances of Lancairs
in particular and = would give an accurate value?

Here are the specs of the plane = and I'm attaching a picture of the outside (I
don't have a full picture of = the avionics panel):

Engine: Walter 601D

Avionics:
= Garmin GMA 340 Audio panel
Garmin GNS430W WAAS GPS/NAV/Com with Glide slope = indicator
Garmin SL 30 NAV/Com
Garmin GTX330 Mode S transponder = with TIS
Tru-Trak Sorcerer Autopilot
Single screen Chelton SV Efis = System
Garmin GMX 200 MFD with traffic.

It is = pressurized

There is A/C

No de-ice on the wings.

If you would be = willing to have a quick phone chat I'd love to talk a little
bit = about it with you.  My phone number is below.

Thanks so = much!
Jenny Hayden


--
Jenny Hayden
tel: (1) = 415 308 5944
mailto:ejennyhayden@gmail.com<mailto:jenny.hayden@bain.com>=

<Avionics 1.jpg><Avionics = 2.jpg><IMG_0006s.jpg>


From: = George Wehrung <gw5@me.com>
Subject: = Landing the ES on grass or Turf = airparks
Date: September 11, 2012 12:19:46 PM = EDT


Does anyone know if there are limitations to landing the = ES on grass strips?  Is it advisable to remove the wheel pants = and/or put larger tires on the main and nose = gear?

Thanks





From: Ron Galbraith <cfi@instructor.net>
Subject: = Re: [LML] Landing the ES on grass or Turf = airparks
Date: September 11, 2012 1:51:53 PM = EDT


The ES handles grass just fine with the wheel pants on. =  The only big problem is if the runway is a little rough, the old = strut will not be able to handle the shimmy damping. It's imperative to = have the new style strut.  I test flew an ES in Bolivia that had = the latest mods and factory service on an old style (but brand new) = strut.  It worked ok for about 4 landings and after that there was = completely no shimmy dampening.  Installed the new style strut and = it's been good every since.  Joaquin will probably tell more about = it since he's here on the list too

Ron

Sent from my = iPhone

On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:19 PM, George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> wrote:

Does anyone know if there are limitations to landing the = ES on grass strips?  Is it advisable to remove the wheel pants = and/or put larger tires on the main and nose = gear?

Thanks



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<= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px;">From: = don Grabiel <grabiel71@gmail.com>
=
Subject: = Re: [LML] Landing the ES on grass or Turf = airparks
Date: September 11, 2012 1:51:53 PM = EDT


George, I try to stay off grass. I have in the past but = it shaacks the $%#& out of the panel and nose gear, which is = connected to the motor mount. In a pinch yes. Not on a regular = basis.

On Sep 11, 2012 12:21 PM, "George Wehrung" = <gw5@me.com> wrote:
Does anyone know if there are limitations to landing the ES on grass = strips?  Is it advisable to remove the wheel pants and/or put = larger tires on the main and nose gear?

Thanks



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