X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:18:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with SMTP id 5513279 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:36:27 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.212.169; envelope-from=egraylaw@swbell.net Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 14:35:50 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.96] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 14:35:50 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.106] by t3.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 14:35:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 14:35:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 700949.70345.bm@omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11311 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2012 14:35:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=swbell.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=S6yiZprDMwLZUu6YHLy77D/kuSrT3IUcSJx6jqxqofexHo9c85N2d0cG1ShSu9H19MQZ3YdESoOWtNedj3pIK0t8hmS/Iax4sea/6K+1m7GZPs2xGa8rSWJYA3Yr5OOMPAKXjjz/QLWAQfD2MUHq1/1OhdaPkzROjUjh/LhItVw= ; X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: J7Fz00cVM1nsAFqM_Ka45HTOdoWT7KRz5Oeb603a5GEBPc. jQbPWMiU9zeid8R0AK_dz_hE2C.oTDtZrcgIXbNN4oYF8pgJhKdpqKbh7EAd ooDxvXqkY9vci3YzkzXTPWg0SvH1NFABPyr3vD2O_K3RNsfl83opk9q7CAEA ClVLZjdc2gSB1fEz.120QXyxm89Nx1AKycJLUCiG29YVHDTem7P2tveGWZQH cGyneAQy3zTo6AQDCM5s0CLbp1uC2i2qprrB29M5tlPA7IkBGvbNq4CmW5Yf XpPy0WAkSK5.vEcaXmMB5sxImZg6OnuMrm9aYtn5jO1fspsWdpAy3dLTFfkM OnqgTi6BdUaKvDeswrq1R2IYoxIbykHqDf9geSSwdDSbHPH8K5wrrSrZ5Ob_ iUFUTBIjB9yr_txlOcSq7XbDWya8F06DNRMXLup9sUzWpY.gTntLih8G8Nlk .NA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7MzGrViswBB3AheNxBPptcOw9pGuT47xSdXn7qNf1as- Received: from GerryGrayHP (egraylaw@99.98.246.182 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 07:35:50 -0700 PDT Reply-To: From: "Ed Gray" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: contactor X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:35:47 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001cd254c$33972ca0$9ac585e0$@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD2522.4AC124A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac0lSmb8cBr1hJ/0SLa/fp1b2Hs9Hw== Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD2522.4AC124A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One option no one mentions is power to the start contactor directly from the battery. When I routed 12v. from battery (Odyssy 680) to main relay then to starter contactor, I had very slow cranking (IO360 on Lancair 360). Battery direct to starter relay and no problem. Bingelis book shows this option. Why run starter current through master relay? How often does a start contactor weld itself closed? If it does the battery will go flat pretty quick-am I correct? Ed Gray Dallas ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD2522.4AC124A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

One option no one mentions is power to the = start contactor directly from the battery. When I routed 12v. from = battery (Odyssy 680) to main relay then to starter contactor, I had very = slow cranking (IO360 on Lancair 360). Battery direct to starter = relay and no problem. Bingelis book shows this option. Why = run starter current through master relay? How often does a start = contactor weld itself closed? If it does the battery will go flat = pretty quick-am I correct?

Ed Gray Dallas =

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