X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:20:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm36-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.116] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5453456 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 07:27:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.116; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2012 11:26:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.163] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2012 11:26:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2012 11:26:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 151577.57443.bm@omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 27358 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2012 11:26:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fH+Fkt/jUjSw6kX4ia92Rz/sC1st99KTy6/VL6FuGWcy9Dr+vA4LLfxGu+Je0NiPQ25oZQcfDLOjhcyXBaWaewP7UI17daGJtEruFxgdQSzLCcm+svjHOGZzClZvAr4bd21gylqJswivBOeeuaQqIW2ljCV2HMbaZCklJsPumKc=; X-YMail-OSG: fzcuttkVM1mbYU5XITv0Wz9Ev2TiE9t9S_wwBPnN4VTLoB_ f7rGMeiTBtWjxWNbP1tTYa.iUamW..AQ9SSmPLJP0nB0O3VP4zbsJ8K5mFVw qARNakYeQdon28_M2XbIwv8gUBWgzmjzlulfKIGvofMh158s0ZnCp..Ct5Jp ZRrysQTTbqE8GXZ6ko1zD5fpXZ0cEEjMgl.sou.4BCZsGo_u06qzVSNJmwcm wnRmmT9uurFwk_uONXqZ1R8SO5h9QIcdJvvdjQNXsikOyUE_GF3x192tsVQI OPZe4ni4g7qW2NVU4yXy1pn6c7gVAl9zhgbE6ONhe04vOuAf5MBKGJCXxNI5 Hcq0kfiY3akzhFbwEEQ6mmL9EBeRikMcGPw1D.yV562fZS.P.hmkQnqVo7QF 8qQ23VbKuu3C5AJfN0hVTVHvB91VZv.P.fAt7nyvUizbieB_rs3d8DpKoXdA - Received: from [71.218.246.98] by web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:26:24 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1332501984.26852.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:26:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Crankcase "venting" after flight X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-685807438-1704716988-1332501984=:26852" ---685807438-1704716988-1332501984=:26852 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My disagreement is, I suppose, more quantitative that qualitative. =A0Yes, = the vent tube is low compared to the filler tube, so air will rise in the v= ent tube, be heated and then flow into the engine, presumably purging the "= bad stuff" out the filler door. =A0This convective action takes place only = while the engine is hot, so it dissipates rather quickly - as Brent propose= s, the most effective time is soon after shutting off the engine. =A0But th= e effectiveness depends on the internal design of the engine, which most ce= rtainly was not based on this type of venting after shutdown. =A0On many (m= ost?) Continentals, the vent tube is connected directly to the filler tube,= making any purging of the crankcase pretty much impossible. =A0Lycoming en= gines have the vent at the rear and the filler somewhere else, giving at le= ast a possibility that some purging could take place. =A0I guess I'm just n= ot convinced that the benefit is worth the potential risk. =A0As anecdotal evidence, I received one private reply from a practitioner that said he fo= rgot to put the cap back on "only" twice.=0AGary Casey=0A=0AFrom Brent:=0AL= etting the crankcase vent after a flight is a good idea. It is a better ide= a after a short flight where the oil has not been hot for long, after low a= ltitude flights where the vapor pressure is low relative to the crankcase p= ressure or in humid climates.=0A=0AOpening the oil cap will cause air to fl= ow in the crankcase vent and out the filler due to convection. Most of the = crankcase vapors will likely be displaced in the time it takes to secure th= e airplane. Secure the cap and close the door when ready to leave. If you h= ave to walk away with the cap off, flag the oil door with a "Remove Before = Flight" banner.=0A=0ABrent Regan=0A ---685807438-1704716988-1332501984=:26852 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My disagreemen= t is, I suppose, more quantitative that qualitative.  Yes, the vent tu= be is low compared to the filler tube, so air will rise in the vent tube, b= e heated and then flow into the engine, presumably purging the "bad stuff" = out the filler door.  This convective action takes place only while th= e engine is hot, so it dissipates rather quickly - as Brent proposes, the m= ost effective time is soon after shutting off the engine.  But the eff= ectiveness depends on the internal design of the engine, which most certain= ly was not based on this type of venting after shutdown.  On many (mos= t?) Continentals, the vent tube is connected directly to the filler tube, m= aking any purging of the crankcase pretty much impossible.  Lycoming e= ngines have the vent at the rear and the filler somewhere else, giving at least a possibility that some purging could take place.  I guess I= 'm just not convinced that the benefit is worth the potential risk.  A= s anecdotal evidence, I received one private reply from a practitioner that= said he forgot to put the cap back on "only" twice.
Gary Casey

Letting the crankcase vent after a flight is a good idea. It is a = better idea after a short flight where the oil has not been hot for long, a= fter low altitude flights where the vapor pressure is low relative to the c= rankcase pressure or in humid climates.

Opening the oil cap will cau= se air to flow in the crankcase vent and out the filler due to convection. Most of the crankcase vapors will likely be displaced in the time it takes= to secure the airplane. Secure the cap and close the door when ready to le= ave. If you have to walk away with the cap off, flag the oil door with a "R= emove Before Flight" banner.

Brent Regan

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