Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #61128
From: paul miller <paul@tbm700.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Fine wire vs regular spark plugs
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:51:54 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
As a matter of interest, Tempest made a presentation to our EAA meeting last night and they had a lot of good technical info, most of which backs up what we've been saying here:

1) Massives typically good for 500 hours, fine wire 1800 hours.
2) Iridium replaced platinum because of leaded fuel issues
3) Resistance should max out at 5000 ohms then replace plug.    Champion has that problem and Tempest created their own "fired in" solution made by Honeywell that the company says solves the problem.  The resistor is not there for radio interference but for capacitance reasons.   
4) Dropping a plug is replacing that plug--no questions.
5) Gaps on massives can be closed, never opened because it cracks insulators.
6) Rotating plugs has real benefits and the rotation is listed on the Tempest website.

There was one slide that showed a badly eroded massive and it was blamed on "severe LOP operation".  I have trouble understanding this link but maybe there's data to support it.

There was quite a bit of information given with good slides.   If anyone wants a presentation for their group, it is worthwhile and a lot of data is on the tempest website.

Paul 
Spruce Creek
Legacy RG


On 2012-02-17, at 1:07 PM, Robert R Pastusek wrote:

Dico wrote:

What do you run for sparkplugs in your TSIO550 engines -- the finewire or the regular ones?  Any comments or reviews?  Does one last longer than the other?  Which is better for LOP operatinos?

Dico,
I’ve run Champion massive electrode plugs in my TSIO 550 for about 750 hours, changing them at about 500 hours, “just because.” The electrodes were worn down, but still easy to gap and running fine. The “new” plugs have about 250 hours on them and look fine. I clean and re-gap them at 100 hours run time (every second oil change). They have performed flawlessly, less the one I dropped on the floor. This caused the inner white glass insulator to crack. Fortunately, it fell out so the defect was easy to see. I’ve never measured the internal resistance of these plugs (ref recent LML discussion), but thought I’d do this at the next cleaning to see how they measure up. I have always run this engine LOP.
 
I have never used fine-wire plugs in an airplane engine. They are a lot more expensive, and theoretically, have a much longer life. Against that, I’ve seen some with cracked center electrodes that required replacement with only a couple hundred hours of run time. Others could advise on these; my information is second hand.
 
Bob

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