X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:08:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTP id 5399892 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:26:28 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.122; envelope-from=kkellner1@new.rr.com X-Original-Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=fNy7LOme c=1 sm=0 a=obLwkm3ISv3u5N1fLH+lKQ==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=zRhDDxO6d_CgAToyoRQA:9 a=d5aStXtDBcPotII-ljMA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=E5fhy3RwCSkA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=biznXsr5AAAA:8 a=Sq8qALBocU1xlm3Fw-QA:9 a=mxv1kQQTW8nPxbt9Cn0A:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=amP8cGQ10gkA:10 a=obLwkm3ISv3u5N1fLH+lKQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 70.92.78.168 Received: from [70.92.78.168] ([70.92.78.168:3053] helo=D4SSJS91) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 10/57-11045-FC5FC3F4; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:25:52 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <315A4B4F90B046D3933F7419308BA44F@D4SSJS91> From: "Ken" X-Original-To: , "John Barrett" References: Subject: Re: [LML] 4P X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:25:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01CCEC73.D4771570" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01CCEC73.D4771570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, I have a set of the aileron bellows. Never been used. I also have a varie= ty of other 4P parts. Let me know if you are interested. =20 Ken Kellner IVP N14LK 920-858-7535 -- Original Message -----=20 From: John Barrett=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:24 AM Subject: RE: [LML] 4P Where does one acquire the bellows? Haven't seen those before. =20 Thanks, John Barrett =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Cr= aig Berland. Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:13 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] 4P =20 Yes, my plane has similar traits. I have attached a picture of the "new" = kit aileron seal and a rubber bellows which I think will fix the problem. = I have purchased the bellows but have not got around to installing them. A = lot of IV-P drivers with the new flat plate sliding seal have complained ab= out high aileron stick force. Craig Berland N7VG I just purchased a 4P It only has 120 hours on it, so still in the debugging stage I took it up 10000 feet and when I pressured it the ailerons got really heave and stiff that even the auto pilot would not control it While descending the Controlls became gradually lighter and normal Anybody had the same experience? =20 Tony Ketelaars =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01CCEC73.D4771570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,
I have a set of the aileron bellows.  Never been used.  I al= so=20 have a variety of other 4P parts.  Let me know if you are=20 interested.  
 
Ken Kellner
IVP  N14LK
920-858-7535
 
 
-- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 Jo= hn=20 Barrett
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012= 7:24=20 AM
Subject: RE: [LML] 4P

Where=20 does one   acquire the  bellows?  Haven=92t  see= n those=20 before.

 

Thanks,
John=20 Barrett

 

From: Lancair Ma= iling=20 List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Craig=20 Berland.
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:13 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject:=20 [LML] 4P

 

Yes,=20 my plane has similar traits. I have attached a picture of the =93new=94 k= it=20 aileron seal and a rubber bellows which I think will fix the problem.&nbs= p; I=20 have purchased the bellows but have not got around to installing them. A = lot=20 of IV-P drivers with the new flat plate sliding seal have complained abou= t=20 high aileron stick force.

Craig=20 Berland

N7VG



 I = just=20 purchased a 4P
 It only has 120 hours on it, so still in the debu= gging=20 stage
 I took it up 10000 feet and when I pressured it the ailero= ns=20 got really
 heave and stiff that even the auto pilot would not co= ntrol=20 it
 While descending the Controlls became gradually lighter and= =20 normal
 Anybody had the same experience?
 
 Tony= =20 Ketelaars
 

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