X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: <marv@lancaironline.net> Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net> To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: <redirect-5353617@logan.com> X-Original-Return-Path: <cwfmd@yahoo.com> Received: from nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.209] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with SMTP id 5353563 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:04:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.209; envelope-from=cwfmd@yahoo.com Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2012 16:03:45 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.112] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2012 16:03:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2012 16:03:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 524644.63753.bm@omp1017.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 5537 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2012 16:03:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q8IIx0f8I/ndDYCU7nkZSwRMa2z6lYlfwEoSo9HA4rkJSP3EsHG2O0/GX3uH8csQe7MFNzlx5wbFTJNWFOqCBhC/Pow9x06+hirlsmT3Ff7YWvWPrrRCLsz4UwEDDoZuHK/hcRgJhFs//lX9yx8O8EdqPzTS/g4HGV6dt68LN9c=; X-YMail-OSG: 5EPeFKwVM1mMgOz77HpVDLFbTB3vi9iEMjrx98.gKBRT7T1 2PzL.HAkYMANm.CGHa2hQoBsTATXAhquVp3ssDQ.CmTttfpd_lK.1dbgJxcT CRNU7M1kDfaWSVPiT9UtSY9YXnLrzKisv_s5V4jBWZRIp7Xvx7w_Y7UISf5. WmwAKA5J1IEHklF0gtI1d1BXJlDKW2lQB5qKYMinvIWXGRMf3HlZgPFEZSsU eQFgVlbobMKkVwzcu.pOJ2ULw0wdpTwY0cDWkh4MMtpovFAXky09Rkm_t9Zn i29HZOJ3FSndj0tVBmXJHraETlBCFrlCbJRsRP8N6EM2tLpZ0vbnF2go2hTq .zTpqXL6tldg5MsVaXVlz2P6yBAEo1_3GR_aZXhuqjb3u5ImyyBPrwsiTp1d CJ54WD81ww4QnPDGZpzN7GAlBQI1D_Km6P6LiE0FcqZ5YLZI7KtwnfPqM5M4 - Received: from [199.30.160.189] by web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:03:45 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 X-Original-Message-ID: <1326816225.4418.YahooMailClassic@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:03:45 -0800 (PST) From: William Miller <cwfmd@yahoo.com> Subject: aopa turbine numbers: $ vs safety X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing <lml@lancaironline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="334464278-299038947-1326816225=:4418" --334464278-299038947-1326816225=:4418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Catching up on some reading, I noticed the survey of turbine aircraft in th= e AOPA Pilot June, 2011. I certainly is a lot of fun to compare my fuel flo= w, cost per hour, maintenance, range, fixed costs,=A0and payload to their n= umbers. Some manufacturers don't even publish their fuel flow with the crui= se data. I wonder what that could mean? =A0Now, if we can just organize ourselves to match their safety record....= =A0 my airplane is missing a few of the certified(or USNmilspec)=A0requirem= ents, including egress and escape redundancy, fire detection/suppression/pr= evention,=A0and "more=A0successful" complete=A0engine failure procedures.(m= ulti-,BRS,eject, bail) =A0I know of one installation of the BRS chute in an ES. Has anyone else in= stalled one? Bill Miller IV-P's =A0450 +45 --334464278-299038947-1326816225=:4418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"= top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Catching up on some reading, I noticed t= he survey of turbine aircraft in the AOPA Pilot June, 2011. I certainly is = a lot of fun to compare my fuel flow, cost per hour, maintenance, range, fi= xed costs, and payload to their numbers. Some manufacturers don't even= publish their fuel flow with the cruise data. I wonder what that could mea= n?</DIV> <DIV> Now, if we can just organize ourselves to match their safety rec= ord.... my airplane is missing a few of the certified(or USNmilspec)&= nbsp;requirements, including egress and escape redundancy, fire detection/s= uppression/prevention, and "more successful" complete engine= failure procedures.(multi-,BRS,eject, bail)</DIV> <DIV> I know of one installation of the BRS chute in an ES. Has anyone= else installed one?</DIV> <DIV>Bill Miller</DIV> <DIV>IV-P's 450 +45</DIV></td></tr></table> --334464278-299038947-1326816225=:4418--