Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #58346
From: Wolfgang <Wolfgang@MiCom.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: LNC2 Vibration Issues
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 08:03:10 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
It looks like you may have already identified your problem (non-counter weighted crank)
 
Maybe a flywheel weight instead of that 4" extension ?
 
Wolfgang
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: FW: LNC2 Vibration Issues



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From: n20087@yahoo.com
To: n20087@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu May 19th, 2011 11:26 AM EDT
Subject: LNC2 Vibration Issues

Folks

I am dealing with a vexing problem which has plagued me throughout my
phase 1 testing and that is, I can't get rid of vibration from my engine
prop combination.  I am running a Lycoming IO360/Slick Mags (non-counter
weighted crank) with a new Hartzell HC-C2YK-1BF/F7666A.

The prop was dynamically balanced on the ground at 23" map and 2400rpm
to 0.05ips.  Interesting thing is the vibration increases significantly
to 0.25ips at 2500RPM on the ground.  When flying, I can see the ASI
needle vibrate a little (+/- 0.5mm) at high power settings >19Inches and
any RPM.    I have not been able to measure the vibration in the air
since it is difficult to mount an accelerometer in the vertical plane
under the cowl but I do see the stick vibrate a little from side to side
when I let it go.

Some additional background:

1.       The engine has accumulated 44 hours since new

2.       The crank was dynamically balanced at the factory

3.       When the engine was built it was tested with a club and found
to be vibration free

4.       The prop has a 4" extension by Sabre Industries

5.       The balancing weight was mounted to the flywheel in the form of
an AN3 bolt/nut (20 grams)

6.       The spinner is solidly fixed to the prop and back plate and is
centered

7.       The crossover exhaust and tailpipes are fixed to the engine
only

8.       The cylinders are 9:1 compression

9.       All cylinder compressions are even and in the 70s

10.   The engine mount bolts are torqued correctly to 40-45ftlb

11.   The engine does not/cannot touch the cowl

When I tested the aircraft at 17,500 feet, I noted the vibration was
significantly less pronounced or non-existent due to the low power
output.  I noticed the same thing in cruise decent at 18 inches or
lower.  Talking to the prop balancing mechanic, he stated that it is
unusual for balance to be ok at 2400 RPM but to be significantly
different at 2500RPM+. 

I would be very grateful for any help and assistance from anybody with
knowledge or experience in correcting vibration issues such as the one I
described above

 

Thanks

 

Tom

 




----Forwarded Message----

From: n20087@yahoo.com
To: n20087@yahoo.com
To: n20087@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu May 19th, 2011 11:26 AM EDT
Subject: LNC2 Vibration Issues

Folks

I am dealing with a vexing problem which has plagued me throughout my phase 1 testing and that is, I can’t get rid of vibration from my engine prop combination.  I am running a Lycoming IO360/Slick Mags (non-counter weighted crank) with a new Hartzell HC-C2YK-1BF/F7666A.

The prop was dynamically balanced on the ground at 23” map and 2400rpm to 0.05ips.  Interesting thing is the vibration increases significantly to 0.25ips at 2500RPM on the ground.  When flying, I can see the ASI needle vibrate a little (+/- 0.5mm) at high power settings >19Inches and any RPM.    I have not been able to measure the vibration in the air since it is difficult to mount an accelerometer in the vertical plane under the cowl but I do see the stick vibrate a little from side to side when I let it go.

Some additional background:

1.       The engine has accumulated 44 hours since new

2.       The crank was dynamically balanced at the factory

3.       When the engine was built it was tested with a club and found to be vibration free

4.       The prop has a 4” extension by Sabre Industries

5.       The balancing weight was mounted to the flywheel in the form of an AN3 bolt/nut (20 grams)

6.       The spinner is solidly fixed to the prop and back plate and is centered

7.       The crossover exhaust and tailpipes are fixed to the engine only

8.       The cylinders are 9:1 compression

9.       All cylinder compressions are even and in the 70s

10.   The engine mount bolts are torqued correctly to 40-45ftlb

11.   The engine does not/cannot touch the cowl

When I tested the aircraft at 17,500 feet, I noted the vibration was significantly less pronounced or non-existent due to the low power output.  I noticed the same thing in cruise decent at 18 inches or lower.  Talking to the prop balancing mechanic, he stated that it is unusual for balance to be ok at 2400 RPM but to be significantly different at 2500RPM+. 

I would be very grateful for any help and assistance from anybody with knowledge or experience in correcting vibration issues such as the one I described above

 

Thanks

 

Tom

 

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