X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:54:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pz0-f52.google.com ([209.85.210.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTPS id 4936026 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:07:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.52; envelope-from=vonjet@gmail.com Received: by pzk12 with SMTP id 12so2557689pzk.25 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:06:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=n+BNYSI2pRUE6jQS3YDcjSW10E4aO1H3sy9IlZLxyPxUPZ7wE/4sTp3K12KGwiS1uj vDV/U5TS8S1DpfWQFJhJXKurNQ/2BJ86fT5d32tvF4V6Hzr3WVzcCCjiYNyt7cIxAKOl Oyon1YppUBkibWvRLjRpPn1wNEGHB8mlxR+Ec= Received: by 10.142.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr1097168wfc.97.1302217602278; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:06:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [10.231.221.230] (135.sub-174-254-51.myvzw.com [174.254.51.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y2sm2792946wfd.8.2011.04.07.16.06.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: True "composite" question References: From: Bryan Wullner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-32--359633463 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8E200) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <597E000D-5504-4407-AE3F-3E94D6B14171@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:06:33 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8E200) --Apple-Mail-32--359633463 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you do this you will definitely make the news.=20 Bryan On Apr 4, 2011, at 9:40 PM, "Danny Miller" wrote:= > Now that=E2=80=99s funny! Be sure to let all of know when this is done so= we can watch you try to fly it. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Danny Miller >=20 > N 38=C2=B0 43' 25.7" >=20 > W 77=C2=B0 30' 38.6" >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: John Hafen [mailto:j.hafen@comcast.net]=20 > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:41 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: True "composite" question >=20 > =20 >=20 > Interesting idea. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I'm thinking of removing the wings from my IVP and replacing them with fle= xible wooden spar frames held together with Elmer's glue, and covering them w= ith wax and feathers. >=20 > =20 >=20 > John Hafen >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Gary Edwards wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Wow! What an idea. I hope you don't do it. This one is likely to genera= te a large amount of responses.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > First thing to do: fire the A&P. >=20 > Second thing to do: keep building it per the plans. >=20 > =20 >=20 > There is nothing wrong with the wing or the rest of the plane. There are h= undreds of them flying. Like any plane, mind the numbers properly and all w= ill be fine. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Gary Edwards >=20 > LNC2 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- >=20 > From: Tim J=C3=B8rgensen >=20 > To: lml@lancaironline.net >=20 > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:34 AM >=20 > Subject: [LML] True "composite" question >=20 > =20 >=20 > Hi all. >=20 > =20 >=20 > My LNC2 is near completion and I have started preparing all the paperwork n= ecessary for the flight permit. >=20 > During my research I have stumbeled across the NTSB website and made a sea= rch on "Lancair 360". For those of you who have not done that (probably most= !), this is HORRIFIC reading !!! >=20 > There seems to be quite a large number of stall related accidents, which l= eads me to believe that the airfoil is basically unsafe. Anyway, I am not go= ing to fly this thing as is, although I have had my license for more than 20= years and have accumulated more than 200 hrs. >=20 > I have now come across a set of RV-7 wings that survived a hangar collapse= last winter. This airfoil seems much more forgiving, anyway, that is what m= y A&P says, and I am trying to come up with a way to install them on my othe= rwise finished airframe. I will, of course, have to keep the stub wings and m= ake them fit the slightly larger RV wing but, apart from that, would I be in= for at lot work? Has anyone done this before? Any advice taken! >=20 > =20 >=20 > Regards >=20 > Tim Jorgensen >=20 > Lancair 360, was 95% done, now back to maybe 60%.....=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 --Apple-Mail-32--359633463 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
If you do this you will definitely make= the news. 

Bryan

On Apr 4, 2011, at 9:40 PM, "Dan= ny Miller" <danny.miller@veri= zon.net> wrote:

Now that=E2=80=99s funny!  Be sure to let all of know when this is= done so we can watch you try to fly it.

=  

Danny Miller

N 38=C2=B0 4= 3' 25.7"

W 77=C2=B0 30' 38.6"=

 

= From: John Hafen [mailto:j.ha= fen@comcast.net]
Sent: Mo= nday, April 04, 2011 2:41 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: True "composite" question=

 <= /font>

<= span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Interesting idea.

 

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm thinking of removing the wings from my IVP and replac= ing them with flexible wooden spar frames held together with Elmer's glue, a= nd covering them with wax and feathers.

 

John Hafen

 

 

=  

 

On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:13 A= M, Gary Edwards wrote:



Wow!  What an idea.  I hope you don't do it.  This one= is likely to generate a large amount of responses. 

 

First thing to do: fire the A&a= mp;P.

Second thi= ng to do: keep building it per the plans.

=

 

There is nothing wrong with the wing or the rest of the pla= ne.  There are hundreds of them flying.  Like any plane, mind the n= umbers properly and all will be fine.

 

Gary Edwards

LNC2

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:34 AM<= o:p>

Su= bject: = [LML] True "composite" question

 

Hi all.<= span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-se= rif";color:black">

 

My LN= C2 is near completion and I have started preparing all the paperwork necessa= ry for the flight permit.

During my research I have stumbeled across the NTSB websit= e and made a search on "Lancair 360". For those of you who have not don= e that (probably most!), this is HORRIFIC reading !!!=

There seems to be quite a large= number of stall related accidents, which leads me to believe that the airfo= il is basically unsafe. Anyway, I am not going to fly this thing as is, alth= ough I have had my license for more than 20 years and have accumulated more t= han 200 hrs.

I have now come across a set of RV-7 wings that survived a hangar co= llapse last winter. This airfoil seems much more forgiving, anyway, that is w= hat my A&P says, and I am trying to come up with a way to install them o= n my otherwise finished airframe. I will, of course, have to keep the stub w= ings and make them fit the slightly larger RV wing but, apart from that, wou= ld I be in for at lot work? Has anyone done this before? Any advice taken!

 = ;

Regards=

Tim Jorgensen

Lancair 360, w= as 95% done, now back to maybe 60%..... 

  

 

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