X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 00:40:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTP id 4932575 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:08:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.17; envelope-from=danny.miller@verizon.net Received: from DannyLaptop ([unknown] [71.114.0.132]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LJ500289HLO03P3@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:08:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Danny Miller" X-Original-To: "'John Hafen'" , References: In-reply-to: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: True "composite" question X-Original-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:08:09 -0400 X-Original-Message-id: <010101cbf31d$2af96660$80ec3320$@miller@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0102_01CBF2FB.A3E7C660" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: Acvyk0h22MdwATHkQxOzymF0N19fLQAicpmw Content-language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01CBF2FB.A3E7C660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that=92s funny! Be sure to let all of know when this is done so we = can watch you try to fly it. =20 Danny Miller N 38=B0 43' 25.7" W 77=B0 30' 38.6" =20 From: John Hafen [mailto:j.hafen@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:41 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: True "composite" question =20 Interesting idea. =20 I'm thinking of removing the wings from my IVP and replacing them with flexible wooden spar frames held together with Elmer's glue, and = covering them with wax and feathers. =20 John Hafen =20 =20 =20 =20 On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Gary Edwards wrote: Wow! What an idea. I hope you don't do it. This one is likely to = generate a large amount of responses.=20 =20 First thing to do: fire the A&P. Second thing to do: keep building it per the plans. =20 There is nothing wrong with the wing or the rest of the plane. There = are hundreds of them flying. Like any plane, mind the numbers properly and = all will be fine. =20 Gary Edwards LNC2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim J=F8rgensen =20 To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:34 AM Subject: [LML] True "composite" question =20 Hi all. =20 My LNC2 is near completion and I have started preparing all the = paperwork necessary for the flight permit. During my research I have stumbeled across the NTSB website and made a search on "Lancair 360". For those of you who have not done that = (probably most!), this is HORRIFIC reading !!! There seems to be quite a large number of stall related accidents, which leads me to believe that the airfoil is basically unsafe. Anyway, I am = not going to fly this thing as is, although I have had my license for more = than 20 years and have accumulated more than 200 hrs. I have now come across a set of RV-7 wings that survived a hangar = collapse last winter. This airfoil seems much more forgiving, anyway, that is = what my A&P says, and I am trying to come up with a way to install them on my otherwise finished airframe. I will, of course, have to keep the stub = wings and make them fit the slightly larger RV wing but, apart from that, = would I be in for at lot work? Has anyone done this before? Any advice taken! =20 Regards Tim Jorgensen Lancair 360, was 95% done, now back to maybe 60%.....=20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01CBF2FB.A3E7C660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Now that’s funny!=A0 Be = sure to let all of know when this is done so we can watch you try to fly = it.

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Danny = Miller

N 38=B0 43' = 25.7"

W 77=B0 30' = 38.6"

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From: John Hafen = [mailto:j.hafen@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:41 = AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: True = "composite" = question

 

Interesting = idea.

 

=

I'm thinking of removing the wings from my = IVP and replacing them with flexible wooden spar frames held together = with Elmer's glue, and covering them with wax and = feathers.

 

=

John = Hafen

 

=

 

=

 

=

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Gary Edwards = wrote:



Wow!  What an idea.  I hope you don't do it.  This one = is likely to generate a large amount of = responses. 

 

First thing to do: fire the = A&P.

Second thing to do: keep building it per the = plans.

 

There is nothing wrong with the wing or the rest of the plane.  = There are hundreds of them flying.  Like any plane, mind the = numbers properly and all will be = fine.

 

Gary Edwards

LNC2

-= ---- Original Message -----

From:&= nbsp;<= a href=3D"mailto:tj@yacht-pool.dk" title=3D"mailto:tj@yacht-pool.dk">Tim = J=F8rgensen

To:&= nbsp;<= a href=3D"mailto:lml@lancaironline.net" = title=3D"mailto:lml@lancaironline.net">lml@lancaironline.net

Sent:&= nbsp;F= riday, April 01, 2011 7:34 AM

Subject:&= nbsp;[= LML] True "composite" = question

 

H= i all.

 

M= y LNC2 is near completion and I have started preparing all the paperwork = necessary for the flight permit.

D= uring my research I have stumbeled across the NTSB website and made = a search on "Lancair 360". For those of you who have not done = that (probably most!), this is HORRIFIC reading !!!

T= here seems to be quite a large number of stall related accidents, which = leads me to believe that the airfoil is basically unsafe. Anyway, I am = not going to fly this thing as is, although I have had my license for = more than 20 years and have accumulated more than 200 = hrs.

I= have now come across a set of RV-7 wings that survived a hangar = collapse last winter. This airfoil seems much more forgiving, anyway, = that is what my A&P says, and I am trying to come up with a way to = install them on my otherwise finished airframe. I will, of course, have = to keep the stub wings and make them fit the slightly larger RV wing = but, apart from that, would I be in for at lot work? Has anyone done = this before? Any advice taken!

 

R= egards

T= im Jorgensen

L= ancair 360, was 95% done, now back to maybe = 60%..... 

  

=

 

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