X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:39:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.125] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTP id 4930568 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:11:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.125; envelope-from=Wolfgang@MiCom.net X-Original-Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pN6kzQkhXdmdOr6Akjoh3kGBD/S3UyPMKQp53EJY+ro= c=1 sm=0 a=9a8M5JtJN1IA:10 a=MHZY6FYWMEQOp7S43i2QIw==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=feSKsM-dX7fmAgEVfvsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=3vMe-kJwgATE84PTzbgA:9 a=-ofYvlxHkvN0_U87ajUA:7 a=MHZY6FYWMEQOp7S43i2QIw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.218.201.50 Received: from [74.218.201.50] ([74.218.201.50:1091] helo=Lobo) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 28/D3-28036-3D2879D4; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:10:59 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <007601cbf172$120081e0$6401a8c0@Lobo> From: "Wolfgang" X-Original-To: Subject: RE: [LML] True "composite" question X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:10:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01CBF150.8AC19050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CBF150.8AC19050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The "problem" with the 360 is not a problem . . . . the "problem" lies = with the pilot and inadequate training. The 360 has a higher wing loading than the typical two seater, even the = typical four seater. That higher wing loading will NOT fly at the lower speeds that a lot of = pilots come from. Trying to fly a 360 at those lower speeds will result = in a stall. It's a matter of understanding the parameters of what you're flying and = staying within them . . . . period. Wolfgang From: Tim J=F8rgensen =20 Sender: =20 Subject: True "composite" question=20 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:34:39 -0400=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 =20 =20 Hi all. My LNC2 is near completion and I have started preparing all the = paperwork necessary for the flight permit. During my research I have stumbeled across the NTSB website and = made a search on "Lancair 360". For those of you who have not done that = (probably most!), this is HORRIFIC reading !!! There seems to be quite a large number of stall related accidents, = which leads me to believe that the airfoil is basically unsafe. Anyway, = I am not going to fly this thing as is, although I have had my license = for more than 20 years and have accumulated more than 200 hrs. I have now come across a set of RV-7 wings that survived a hangar = collapse last winter. This airfoil seems much more forgiving, anyway, = that is what my A&P says, and I am trying to come up with a way to = install them on my otherwise finished airframe. I will, of course, have = to keep the stub wings and make them fit the slightly larger RV wing = but, apart from that, would I be in for at lot work? Has anyone done = this before? Any advice taken! Regards Tim Jorgensen Lancair 360, was 95% done, now back to maybe 60%.....=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01CBF150.8AC19050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The "problem" with the 360 is not a = problem . . . .=20 the "problem" lies with the pilot and inadequate training.

The 360 has a higher wing loading than = the typical=20 two seater, even the typical four seater.

That higher wing loading will NOT fly = at the lower=20 speeds that a lot of pilots come from. Trying to fly a 360 at those = lower speeds=20 will result in a stall.

It's a matter of understanding the = parameters of=20 what you're flying and staying within them . . . . period.

Wolfgang

lml@lancaironline.net

From:	Tim J=F8rgensen=20 <tj@yacht-pool.dk>
Sender:	<marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject:	True "composite" = question
Date:	Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:34:39 = -0400
To:

Hi all.

My LNC2 is near completion and I = have started=20 preparing all the paperwork necessary for the flight = permit.

During my research I have = stumbeled across=20 the NTSB website and made a search on "Lancair 360". For = those of you=20 who have not done that (probably most!), this is HORRIFIC reading=20 !!!

There seems to be quite a large = number of=20 stall related accidents, which leads me to believe that the = airfoil is=20 basically unsafe. Anyway, I am not going to fly this thing as is, = although=20 I have had my license for more than 20 years and have accumulated = more=20 than 200 hrs.

I have now come across a set of = RV-7 wings=20 that survived a hangar collapse last winter. This airfoil seems = much more=20 forgiving, anyway, that is what my A&P says, and I am trying = to come=20 up with a way to install them on my otherwise finished airframe. I = will,=20 of course, have to keep the stub wings and make them fit the = slightly=20 larger RV wing but, apart from that, would I be in for at lot = work? Has=20 anyone done this before? Any advice taken!

Regards

Tim Jorgensen

Lancair 360, was 95% done, now = back to maybe=20 60%.....

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