X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 09:14:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTPS id 4890008 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:33:16 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.180; envelope-from=keith.smith@gmail.com Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so1774866qyk.4 for ; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:32:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CclFRaDTyx02C2OG8f6g/eC+vZEmh4EBfe28lrTzL2hvKE4xhx/xTBp4Rz5Q1wB9X/ 54/r0utX9Np2YlO5owdP1dDZa/QUEdtisIWg/KSL843laPJc2V70UWgGTcJtIJFqWqFi sbCw/7getoLoIrwI8R2g5bJeHOtReqkpbcEBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.81 with SMTP id p17mr23457qcj.43.1299202361677; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.77.65 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:32:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:32:41 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] LNC 2 full flap landing From: Keith Smith X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640826e425769049d9e1f27 --0016e640826e425769049d9e1f27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The instructor who handled my transition into the 360 said the same thing. He told me to only use full flap when coming into the eventual new home for the airplane, which is a 2600/2900ft runway (differing displaced thresholds on either end), or anything equally short. I initially experienced the same thing, smoother touchdowns with 30 degs...but eventually I just started using 40 all the time, wanting to use a consistent procedure. I use 80kias if it it's just me in the airplane, or 83kts if I'm heavy...and I can routinely grease it if I'm paying enough attention. 12.5-13" of MP on final on a typical glide path gets the job done. What speeds are you using on final? Here's a compilation of some of my earlier landings after buying the airplane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq-YtaIzL38 Note the float on the 2nd ldg (85kts, half tanks, just me, ie, light). Shortly after that, I transitioned to 80 on final. There's also an example in the video of landing at Aeroflex Andover, which is just under 2000ft, water on both ends. Coming in too fast there would be a punishing experience. Keith --0016e640826e425769049d9e1f27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The instructor who handled my transition into the 360 said the same thing. = He told me to only use full flap when coming into the eventual new home for= the airplane, which is a 2600/2900ft runway (differing displaced threshold= s on either end), or anything equally short.

I initially experienced the same thing, smoother touchdowns with 30 deg= s...but eventually I just started using 40 all the time, wanting to use a c= onsistent procedure. I use 80kias if it it's just me in the airplane, o= r 83kts if I'm heavy...and I can routinely grease it if I'm paying = enough attention. 12.5-13" of MP on final on a typical glide path gets= the job done.

What speeds are you using on final?

Here's a compilation of = some of my earlier landings after buying the airplane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOq-Yt= aIzL38

Note the float on the 2nd ldg (85kts, half tanks, just me, ie, light). = Shortly after that, I transitioned to 80 on final.=A0 There's also an e= xample in the video of landing at Aeroflex Andover, which is just under 200= 0ft, water on both ends.=A0 Coming in too fast there would be a punishing e= xperience.

Keith

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