Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #57373
From: Bill Wade <super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Oil Door Latches and Rivets
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:21:53 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
  I've riveted to fiberglass before. I tried both but I found soft rivets do a better job. The rivet body swells in the hole before the shop head is formed- not a problem with aluminum or steel, in fact it's what you want for a tight connection. I think a hard rivet pushes too much on the surrounding fiberglass and can fracture it. Fiberglass is relatively weak in compression- experiment with some scrap pieces.
 
  Would it work to embed flat-head screws? I'd suggest stainless screws, notched so they wouldn't rotate and set in flox or microglass. Cover the heads with a layer of fiberglass as previously suggested and the result would be studs on the inside. Then if you needed to replace the latch, just remove some nuts. Again, try it on some scrap and see what you think.   -Bill Wade
 

From: rwolf99@aol.com [mailto:rwolf99@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:37 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Oil Door Latches and Rivets

 

I'm using a standard Hartwell latch for my oil door -- just like a Wichita spam can.  My question is whether to attach it to the door with rivets or screws.  If I use screws, I can replace it easily and it's easier to paint.  If I use rivets (which would have to be 5/32 rivets due to the hole size in the latch) then it's harder to replace, but you can't see the fasteners.

 

My wife says to use rivets, since I told her that I'd probably never have to replace the latch, but if so, I could drill out the rivets and then use "those shiny stainless screws".

 

For those of you using these latches -- what have y'all done?

 

FYI, I'm using a gooseneck hinge from an RV (Vans), so the actual hinge is not visible.  Just the latch is visible.  I'm not interested in using one of those elegant hidden actuators that some of you have, although they definitely look nice.

 

Next question -- since I'm not a sheet metal guy and know nothing about rivets, would I use soft rivets to attach the latch and also the hinge, or would I have to use hard rivets.  Normally I'm using the soft rivets for nutplates.

 

Thanks, guys!

 

- Rob Wolf

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