X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 07:42:28 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from wolverine.webiness.com ([65.61.103.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.11) with ESMTPS id 4630020 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:12:48 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.61.103.66; envelope-from=brent@regandesigns.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=regandesigns.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type; b=Jlhx0siyHpifps8cRre1KuoTZ6JNG5TF+HWc3b4qi8UuSuFNGBCHISeAvaVkIBjUJ2OKCKSEFtWXZ2ZLhd2Kk3X7BkwNdMybSeRD0zy8vs1hmtFnhaQssthf3VWO0K0m; Received: from 207-170-226-178.static.twtelecom.net ([207.170.226.178] helo=[192.168.1.145]) by wolverine.webiness.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHC8-00017w-TM for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 08:12:13 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <4CFBB9DB.3080106@regandesigns.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 08:12:11 -0800 From: Brent Regan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: Hydraulic hoses Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040701010108090504060904" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wolverine.webiness.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - regandesigns.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040701010108090504060904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George writes: <<< <>I decided to replace a few hoses just to get back in the business of building again and the attached picture is an example of one hose I produced. I am not going to send my hoses off to Sacramento Sky Ranch for re-make, as a couple responders so sternly suggested. I'm a homebuilder thank you very much, and I will make my own hoses. I bought the hose and couplings from A/C Spruce. >>>> Why didn't you make the hose and fittings too? (I know, sarcasm is a low form of humor.) The reasons to use the Stratoflex 124 with integral firesleeve and crimped fittings include: * Unlimited life, you only replace on condition. * Inert liner. The teflon liner has the best chemical resistance, better than any rubber. * Better fitting retention. The hose will fail before the crimp. * Integral fire sleeve won't absorb oil or fuel. * Lighter than rubber hose with fire sleeve. * Factory pressure tested, cleaned and certified. I want the safest components in my airplane. Did you pressure test your hose to 1.5X rated pressure and the flush the hose to remove the factory release agent? The release agent is usually a fine powder that is very abrasive to hydraulic components. Seals don't wear out because they are rubbing on smooth clean metal. They wear out because of contamination. George also writes: <<>>> That IS true. Your plane was un-airworthy at the first sign of deterioration and I believe that if a Fed ramp checked your plane and saw that line they could ground you on the spot. What I think or even what you think is not important. It is how the FAA interprets the regulations that is important. Here is my offer, show one of the hoses removed from your AC with the Rescue Tape to you local FAA inspector, have him sign a statement that the hose is just fine for your landing gear and send it to me. I'll send you a crisp $100 bill and a written apology. Manufacturer's produce products to specifications or standards. If, in the course of service, the product fall outside the limits of that specification or standard then it ceases to be the product. I want to see you get to 2,000 hours. I have participated in too many accident investigations. I don't even want to hear about another one. I am very pleased you decided to replace those hoses. Regards Brent Regan --------------040701010108090504060904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George writes: <<< <>I decided to replace a few hoses just to get back in the business of building again and the attached picture is an example of one hose I produced.  I am not going to send my hoses off to Sacramento Sky Ranch for re-make, as a couple responders so sternly suggested.  I'm a homebuilder thank you very much, and I will make my own hoses.  I bought the hose and couplings from A/C Spruce.  >>>>

Why didn't you make the hose and fittings too? (I know, sarcasm is a low form of humor.) The reasons to use the Stratoflex 124 with integral firesleeve and crimped fittings include:

  • Unlimited life, you only replace on condition.
  • Inert liner. The teflon liner has the best chemical resistance, better than any rubber.
  • Better fitting retention. The hose will fail before the crimp.
  • Integral fire sleeve won't absorb oil or fuel.
  • Lighter than rubber hose with fire sleeve.
  • Factory pressure tested, cleaned and certified.
I want the safest components in my airplane. Did you pressure test your hose to 1.5X rated pressure and the flush the hose to remove the factory release agent? The release agent is usually a fine powder that is very abrasive to hydraulic components. Seals don't wear out because they are rubbing on smooth clean metal. They wear out because of contamination.

George also writes: <<<There is nothing to suggest to me that my airplane is not airworthy, as Brent Ragan would suggest.  If that were true it should have been un-airworthy at the first sign of a deteriorated hose covering, which I began noticing some months ago. >>>>

That IS true. Your plane was un-airworthy at the first sign of deterioration and I believe that if a Fed ramp checked your plane and saw that line they could ground you on the spot. What I think or even what you think is not important. It is how the FAA interprets the regulations that is important.

Here is my offer, show one of the hoses removed from your AC with the Rescue Tape to you local FAA inspector, have him sign a statement that the hose is just fine for your landing gear and send it to me. I'll send you a crisp $100 bill and a written apology.

Manufacturer's produce products to specifications or standards. If, in the course of service, the product fall outside the limits of that specification or standard then it ceases to be the product.

I want to see you get to 2,000 hours. I have participated in too many accident investigations. I don't even want to hear about another one. I am very pleased you decided to replace those hoses.

Regards
Brent Regan
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