X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:36:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.15.61] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with SMTP id 4520177 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 23:05:38 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.15.61; envelope-from=craig@skybolt.net Received: (qmail 46370 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2010 03:05:02 -0000 Received: from Ace (craig@76.208.130.152 with login) by smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2010 20:05:01 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: sYxhbm.swBCvFXZ5XcsZWT3w2320TvMaw69nMUmH X-YMail-OSG: ND6_0ooVM1n4vDEAqonPH7RMrL7cGIc7z8.AlcWHM_LUIXb _qzaYYaMbO.X5zLfbe2fqqM5Xpan3X25yiHpTSmhgN41URMHbd85pBm1AKWU j6xlR1wkYp7ILeKsNTW9GPtEFpq49eAi9uOqZXr5DOBF.hHiVyIgMZl65Wd6 sUcana_rYVYukb9XXPPA3DtPZrW14y7S6VopMurphGM7leJzfLdWHwaE_HjZ lJbOIynLzcL3YHRV76m5wJ7pbJG36wLXrEZ1rJC0MyDZmFzFqcoLvokS0kxm t4LMgUD7F0W2haehbDVgQAoCdbP47SSOoFpQEQTNtreqjJo.shBz5SqlL5HG m X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Craig Schulze" X-Original-To: "'Stan Fields'" , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Air Conditioning for the 320/360 X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:04:52 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <00a201cb7003$939290e0$bab7b2a0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Actv+9my1FXGMozrTvOAI69fi6zAlwABxfyg Content-Language: en-us Hi Stan, I got some of my components from FlightLine AC as well as Airflow Systems. Both are great companies to work with. In the picture what is the orientation? Are we looking rear or to the side? Cant tell if the holes are side by side or one in front of the other. Are you using the electric compressor or engine driven? Craig Schulze Lancair N73S -----Original Message----- From: Stan Fields [mailto:sdfields@austin.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:10 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: RE: [LML] Air Conditioning for the 320/360 Hello Craig, I'm installing the StarFlight Condensor Unit that I got from FlightLineAC in my Legacy. The condenser installs behind the co-pilot's seat and uses two 6" access holes for the heat exchange. I'm still building so it will be awhile before I know how well it works, but if it works as good as the StarFlight rudders I installed it should be great. Other installations don't report any resulting loss of airspeed. Stan Fields Legacy #201 www.lancairlegacybuilder.com -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Craig Schulze Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:15 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Air Conditioning for the 320/360 Hi Guys, The days of summer are over here in California and it went out with a big blast with record setting temps of 114. It's a good thing the AC that I installed back in June worked like a charm. So far I have flown all summer with it including my trip to Oshkosh and back. What a lifesaver when its 90 and the humidity is 90%. I have flown it on days here in California when it was 110 on the ground and the air temp at my altitude was 105. I did have to turn the blower up to medium on that day though. The all up weight ran about 37 lbs. I have 3 vents, one in the center and the two below the panel in the stock location. If anyone is interested in details please email me. The hardest part was getting the airflow for the condenser to work properly. I had thought that a NACA style scoop would work on the belly off to the side to get cool air would work along with an exit hole some 12 inches behind that. That did not work. The strange thing was that the airflow actually reversed even though I had a fan on the condenser. So what I ended up doing was adding a P-51 style scoop. It is fairly small but it did reduce the speed by 5 kts. So now my 207 kt cruise was down to 202. The compressor only cost 1 kt. The scoop was 4 kts. So now that it is cool again I will be back to the drawing board to figure out why the airflow wants to reverse from those two points on the belly. All in all it has been worth it. Being able to sit in comfort with the canopy closed from start up to shut down has really increased my flying pleasure. If anyone has any ideas for a cleaner scoop or a place to get air from without a penalty I would be very interested in hearing from you. Thank you, Craig Schulze -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html