X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web111414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.15.210] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with SMTP id 4487657 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:42:31 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.15.210; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79291 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2010 16:41:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fEmg7wR2Ulbh8zTKcwQL39NXVAgxOP+RqkuVmShdrkrbeBNM79EZB2eAllINE/roL9jMQ3jHK1hOmpvFMcpm2nQPoKQbliBCKCTCZy8aa6+9Bk587zhHJcfgqGf3D9mIbiiJ7+LVySPLMz6qeo67ECQKTyF9//ALZljSpmX7f5g=; X-Original-Message-ID: <751772.55193.qm@web111414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .TSYT5cVM1lYPS1lsZps6s_54sTvf07DNztdkZVyXL8sSyn YBSJLdvGj80qWGxCbs7v2eA.Jx0dJ0rhUAlfL7Ix_RNFKXs482M.C6wUHuSs fioaoFNiyu_dxBb.JjErOMzfX58wSPYL1dxbvpezIdplBUMHf6XnrS9A9_gi WTUfuvwkzUy9H5YhoLuRPBdaWVVNzVaB5eEQWO2asf_8NtQ05ODR3BCfqaup 4t749hgjZFd7PXt4.TxPfxitkZUsvJ3NHl0ZXLaeY1.MmY_ipVSuiTD5fpRZ 6AnnawarSbN3BxZOMmyNFhN3FR4qrWcR09YweoFlFKZM1c5xbzmfzVro0SuM LXzOkeY6FuM8Ge0vwIobKGXJXldDjKfCqSiWqig-- Received: from [76.8.220.21] by web111414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:41:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 X-Original-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2145497371-1285864914=:55193" --0-2145497371-1285864914=:55193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would think the last thing you would ever want it an LNC2 is to end upsid= e down. The thought of that terrifies me. Now that I think of it, anyone have a good line on light weight saw that yo= u could use to cut yourself out? I will be velcroing it to the back of the = passenger seat.. Randy Snarr N694RS "Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if n= ot utterly impossible" -Simon Newcomb, 1902 --- On Wed, 9/29/10, Douglas Brunner wrote: From: Douglas Brunner Subject: [LML] Re: Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:31 AM =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI think a cartwheel is the LAST thing= you would want. =0A=0A =A0 =0A=0AI also vote for a minimal airspeed landin= g on the gear or a=0Abelly slide with the gear up. =0A=0A =A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0AFrom: Lancair Mailing=0AList [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf= Of Bill Kennedy =0ASent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:33 AM =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASubject: [LML] Re: Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =A0 = =0A=0AHmm, an intentional cartwheel as an=0Aemergency procedure. May be tru= e, but I won't be trying it. I'll vote for a=0Aminimum energy/airspeed touc= hdown on the belly or mains. =0A =0ABill Kennedy =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ADate: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:46:17 -0400 =0AFrom: mcmess1919@yahoo.com =0ASubject: [LML] Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno =0A=0A=0A=0AThere=0Awas an = seminar at Sun and Fun years ago where they talked about how to best crash= =0Aan airplane without a suitable place to land...and this guy did it...a= =0Acartwheel.=A0 The energy is dissipated more slowly and the G Forces are= =0Aminimized.=A0 They looked at a number of crashes and found that in those= =0Athat cartwheeled, the pilot walked away. =A0Your comments? =0A=0A=A0 =0A= =0ASteve=0AColwell=A0=A0 Legacy =0A=0Ahttp://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-09211= 0-pilot-survives,0,646191.story?track=3Drss =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-2145497371-1285864914=:55193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I would think the last thing you would ever w= ant it an LNC2 is to end upside down.
The thought of that terrifies me.<= br>Now that I think of it, anyone have a good line on light weight saw that= you could use to cut yourself out? I will be velcroing it to the back of t= he passenger seat..

Randy Snarr
N694RS

"Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and in= significant, if not utterly impossible"
-Simon Newcomb, 1902
<= br>--- On Wed, 9/29/10, Douglas Brunner <douglasbrunner@earthlink.= net> wrote:

From: Douglas Brunne= r <douglasbrunner@earthlink.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: Thunder Mustan= g Crash at Reno
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Wednesday, September = 29, 2010, 5:31 AM

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I think a cartwheel is the LAST thing you= would want.

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I also vote for a minimal airspeed landing on the gear or = a=0Abelly slide with the gear up.

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From:= Lanc= air Mailing=0AList [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill = Kennedy
=0ASent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:33 AM
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=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Thunder Mustang = Crash at Reno

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Hmm, an intentional cartwheel as an=0Aemergency proced= ure. May be true, but I won't be trying it. I'll vote for a=0Aminimum energ= y/airspeed touchdown on the belly or mains.
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To: lml@lancaironline.net
=0ADat= e: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:46:17 -0400
=0AFrom: mcmess1919@yahoo.com
=0AS= ubject: [LML] Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno

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There=0Awas an seminar at Sun and Fun years ago= where they talked about how to best crash=0Aan airplane without a suitable= place to land...and this guy did it...a=0Acartwheel.  The energy is d= issipated more slowly and the G Forces are=0Aminimized.  They looked a= t a number of crashes and found that in those=0Athat cartwheeled, the pilot= walked away.  Your comments?

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Steve=0A= Colwell   Legacy

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http://www.q13fox.co= m/news/kcpq-092110-pilot-survives,0,646191.story?track=3Drss <= /p> =0A=0A

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