Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #56087
From: Bill Wade <super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Pitot System and AOA
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:24:05 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
 Most jets I've seen have an array of pitots. I'm a lowly PP but I'd be willing to bet they're connected to independent cockpit displays with multiple redundancy. Why should jet jockeys have all the toys?
 
 I don't think there's any harm in a separate pitot system but I don't think there would be a great advantage. It would add cost and weight plus the dedicated AOA pitot would still be subject to blockage and there could be a signifcant discrepancy between the two systems due to position error. I bought an Advanced AOA, not yet installed- the AOA is calibrated as part of the pitot/static system. Trying to switch between two different pitot sources would probably result in an inaccurate instrument that could be dangerously misleading. That's my take- it would be best to ask the manufacturer.
 
  That being said, I'll take Grayhawk's comment further: if someone had a glass panel I think it makes sense to connect the backup instruments to an independent heated pitot and static system. The price doesn't have to be crazy- pitots come up on Ebay fairly often and I've accumulated a few good ones as spares.
 
  Another consideration is an alternate static system. I have one installed- just a simple valve but it would save wear and tear on the VSI (anyone keep a hammer handy?).
 
  If the static port gets blocked with a glass cockpit display what should be done? Is alternate static usually part of the install or do you break the backup altimeter? That wouldn't help much in a pressurized plane.
 
  I'd be careful about using GPS groundspeed as a proxy for airspeed. Groundspeed is affected by wind direction and velocity but the GPS doesn't know that. It just shows the result.  -Bill Wade
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Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:05 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Pitot System and AOA

John,
 
If you are going to be more comfortable with a backup pitot tube, why not just plumb it to a second airspeed indicator?  Will you have pitot heat on both?
 
The AOA system I use relies on 4 inputs - upper and lower wing pressures, pitot and static.  If I wanted an airspeed backup I would install another heated pitot and a dedicated line to a separate AI in order to keep it simple.  Otherwise, I am just going to rely on known power settings cross checked with GPS ground speed and how quickly the clouds or trees are going by.
 
Scott Krueger
 
In a message dated 8/26/2010 8:06:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JPKleber@aol.com writes:
Greetings,
 
I will have an AOA in my Legacy. 
 
That said, I am concerned that if for some reason my pitot tube gets blocked by something like an insect, bird, or other debris, my airspeed indicator will probably be giving me an erroneous reading. 
 
Would not this error also be reflected in the AOA?
 
Therefore, would it not be a good idea to have the AOA on its own pitot source?  And could one tie both pitot tube together so that if one was blocked, the other would continue to provide pitot pressure?
 
Thank you in advance for your input.
 
John Kleber
 
 
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