X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:23:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.14.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with SMTP id 4179218 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:54:35 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.14.39; envelope-from=craig@skybolt.net Received: (qmail 7681 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2010 03:53:57 -0000 Received: from adsl-76-208-153-87.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net (craig@76.208.153.87 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2010 20:53:56 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: sYxhbm.swBCvFXZ5XcsZWT3w2320TvMaw69nMUmH X-YMail-OSG: 1WW14sAVM1l_bgy3fdzcz.QDCMSWh1vIOODa5WApNyhBH1vZVz3S_whcL9Z5pqmUm9UyYJkQBwBGcWakuMcHONeKQ1NkCB6HN22Dpb5VRrkeNxXKEgouALnWdM8g4fYeXd9d64GUDOAcZtYgAclaKBuJlM8.tlA5QL9Dxa8ZCL_tW.dHPYWGOFR6r0DiQsT8EI.in2WzxbCD6NS8nn9t72pJJg7S3cQF8Xw6pDLDwdZgBxcpes6k7M_MdvSGYRC45sCB44xKG7CkmGoFqPYIkJ_P9MpJN47QZt4FphIa_NzqZW7WLyGr.W6Cj6LRUJYH5Euf71T.PgiqXXq7bqtZ7zY9325wCFhVJw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Craig Schulze" X-Original-To: X-Original-Cc: Subject: X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:53:54 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <013101cacc97$f4f38b10$dedaa130$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0132_01CACC5D.4894B310" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrMl/R2F2vTLjCjQ7GSbt5MVjtIiA== Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01CACC5D.4894B310 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0133_01CACC5D.4894B310" ------=_NextPart_001_0133_01CACC5D.4894B310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Randy, Your very funny. You have quite a collection too that may be slowing you down. Maybe we should be requesting that they start making the trophies out of aluminum. That 3 blade scimitar MT is a sexy looking prop. I was hoping that I would hear everyone come back that they were faster with it. Love the quiet and smooth but got to have that speed baby. Tonight I did a test run with some minor tweaks and it ran 212 kts at 3000 ft. Std day. 2550 and WOT. Guess I am going to need rocket pods to do much better. Craig N73S L320 From: randy snarr Sender: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Prop for LNC2 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:33:39 -0400 To: lml@lancaironline.net Message Header Undecoded Message I have only run the MT 3 blade. I too love this propeller. Very smooth and light. On my IO320 the prop weight is only 37 lbs. Please don't ask how I know this but it is a wood core, combination of spruce and a highly compressed beachwood If I recall what the factory told me, with a fiberglass shell and stainless leading edge for protection from moisture ect.. Wood also is flexible and has natural dampening properties. It is the only propeller I have run on the airplane but it is fast. Even with my Legacy style tips (25' wing) I am also running the larger legacy tail (MKII) and a completely stock IO320 ( injected/ Elec IG) and I can get to 198-200 KTS TAS at 8000. I would love to try other propellers but that is too much of a hassle for me. I am happy with the set up and would definetaly buy another one.. Craig, If I recall, weren't you at about 210 KTS with your current set up? Leave the OSH GC trophy home and the weight savings alone will get you another 5 KTS... FWIW... Randy Snarr N694RS 235/320 --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Lorn H Olsen wrote: From: Lorn H Olsen Subject: [LML] Re: Prop for LNC2 To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 9:28 AM Craig, I love my http://www.aerocomposites.com/ prop. I have over 600 hours on the prop, including an overspeed to 3,400 rpm (not the props fault), and the prop doesn't even have 1 scratch on the leading edge. I have seen Hartzel's that looked like they needed an overhaul at 200 hrs on PA-180's. Aero Composites uses a nickel leading edge. No inspection required for the overspeed according to Aero Composites. Lorn > Posted for "Craig Schulze" >: > Date: March 23, 2010 6:06:52 AM EDT > > Hi Guys, > > Does anyone have any feedback on different props for the Lancair 320/360? > Has anyone tried a Hartzel Scimitar? MT? Any performance differences over > the standard Hartzel 2 blade? > > Thank you, > Craig Schulze > Lancair 320 -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html Subscribe: Feed , Digest , Index . Unsubscribe Mail to ListMaster ------=_NextPart_001_0133_01CACC5D.4894B310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Randy,

 

Your very funny.  You have quite a collection = too that may be slowing you down.  Maybe we should be requesting that they = start making the trophies out of aluminum.

 

That 3 blade scimitar  MT is a sexy looking = prop.  I was hoping that I would hear everyone come back that they were faster = with it.  Love the quiet and smooth but got to have that speed = baby.  Tonight I did a test run with some minor tweaks and it ran 212 kts at 3000 ft. =  Std day. 2550 and WOT.  Guess I am going to need rocket pods to do much better. 

 

Craig

N73S

L320

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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randy snarr = <randylsnarr@yahoo.com>

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<marv@lancaironline.net>

Subject:

Re: [LML] Re: Prop for LNC2

Date:

Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:33:39 -0400

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I have only run the MT 3 blade. I too love this propeller. Very smooth and light. On my IO320 the prop weight is = only 37 lbs. Please don't ask how I know this but it is a wood core, = combination of spruce and a highly compressed beachwood If I recall what the = factory told me, with a fiberglass shell and stainless leading edge for = protection from moisture ect..
Wood also is flexible and has natural dampening properties. It is = the only propeller I have run on the airplane but it is fast. Even with my = Legacy style tips (25' wing) I am also running the larger legacy tail = (MKII) and a completely stock IO320 ( injected/ Elec IG) and I can get to 198-200 = KTS TAS at 8000.
I would love to try other propellers but that is too much of a = hassle for me. I am happy with the set up and would definetaly buy another = one..
Craig, If I recall, weren't you at about 210 KTS with your current = set up?
Leave the OSH GC trophy home and the weight savings alone will get = you another 5 KTS...

FWIW...
Randy Snarr
N694RS
235/320

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Lorn H Olsen = <lorn@dynacomm.us> wrote:


From: Lorn H Olsen <lorn@dynacomm.us>
Subject: [LML] Re: Prop for LNC2
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 9:28 AM

Craig,

I love my http://www.aerocomposites.com/ prop. I have over 600 hours on the prop, including an overspeed to = 3,400 rpm (not the props fault), and the prop doesn't even have 1 scratch = on the leading edge. I have seen Hartzel's that looked like they needed an overhaul at 200 hrs on PA-180's.

Aero Composites uses a nickel leading edge. No inspection required = for the overspeed according to Aero Composites.

Lorn

> Posted for "Craig Schulze" <craig@skybolt.net>:
> Date: March 23, 2010 6:06:52 AM EDT
>
>  Hi Guys,
>
>  Does anyone have any feedback on different props for the = Lancair 320/360?
>  Has anyone tried a Hartzel Scimitar?  MT?  Any performance differences over
>  the standard Hartzel 2 blade?
> 
>  Thank you,
>  Craig Schulze
>  Lancair 320

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LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan


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