X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:28:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from a2s34.a2hosting.com ([74.126.18.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTPS id 4177099 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:57:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.126.18.170; envelope-from=lorn@dynacomm.us DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=dynacomm.us; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=kYYcAAGmkjN3MroSVELM/fUqFKk1VxnTZR+eyxpP7qHbvgBFtDuBUkZU+jBQEQCw+xhM4925L70b5SCgiUEJTINvp9Tfn973JasAgdWmW6BfGvLIt0EgLbEybh6m+7sU; Received: from c-68-41-117-55.hsd1.mi.comcast.net ([68.41.117.55] helo=[192.168.1.130]) by a2s34.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuR4i-0002bh-Kr; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:56:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Lancair 235 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Lorn H Olsen In-Reply-To: <721E77A3-9201-4C23-8315-1B3E63314CC4@charter.net> X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:56:45 -0400 X-Original-Cc: Terrence O'Neill Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <22C947E4-4A07-4293-B139-F481A76D31A3@dynacomm.us> References: <721E77A3-9201-4C23-8315-1B3E63314CC4@charter.net> X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s34.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dynacomm.us Randy, That 285=B0F means that you are cooling very well. Hence, more drag. I = run anywhere from 340=B0F on a cool day at 6 gph to 385=B0F on a warm = day at 8 gph. Lorn On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Terrence O'Neill wrote: > lorn and randy >=20 > Don't know yet, the cruise at 8 gph... have been trying different = injectors nozzles on one lean cylinder... to be able to go lean of = peak... and distracted with a mystery problem with the comm radio = (antenna?)... finally resorted to an ugly external, which may solve = it... and now am changing the canopy opening design from the trapezoid = wobbly one with the hard-to-ready camlocks that I felt were a safgety = item .. to powered slide rails. > So far I'm doing about 165k down low at about cruise 24/24.5, without = experimenting with how much reflex... a little. > Will focus on reflexing... noting Randy's comment... and reducing the = airflow through the engine... running about 285F now... > I expect I'll be a few knots slower because of the h-tail slots, and = the anti-servo trimmer linkage which is not as clean as Randy's and = others. >=20 > Terrence O'Neill > 235/320 > N211AL >=20 > On Mar 24, 2010, at 5:27 AM, randy snarr wrote: >=20 >> My numbers are similar to what has been stated. >> In my 235/320 I am running injected with electronic ignition and MT 3 = blade, best speed for me is at 8000 in cool smooth air 2750 rpm = yields198-200 knots TAS depending on the day. Never seen over 200. Burn = is 9 GPH rich of peak. This is with the new MT with the schimitar = blades. I had the straight blades ( until I broke it) and the best I = could get with that propeller was 196 knots TAS never faster. The new = prop got me another 4 knots (they predicted 5) . >> I believe the bottom of the 235 wing has more curve at the rear lower = airfoil giving it a slightly down flap effect. Don Goetz told me one day = this was done in an attempt to give the wing better low speed = characteristics. I am amazed at how much the airplane speeds up with the = flaps in reflex. 15 knots or so on mine.. >> It looks to me like the 320/360 wing has the same shape but to a = lesser degree resulting in slightly less drag... >>=20 >> Randy Snarr >> 235/320 >> N694RS >>=20 >> --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Lorn H Olsen wrote: >>>=20 >>> From: Lorn H Olsen >>> Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair 235 >>> To: lml@lancaironline.net >>> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:09 AM >>>=20 >>> Terrence, >>>=20 >>> I don't know for sure. Here are some possibilities. >>>=20 >>> 1) I could just be wrong. >>> 2) Reports from 235/320 owners that I have spoken to could = understate the speed. >>> 3) Reports on the 320 from the factory could overstate the speed. >>> 4) The rectangular cowling on the 235/320 could make a difference. >>>=20 >>> How fast does your 235/320 cruise at 8 gph. >>>=20 >>> Lorn >>>=20 >>>> > From: Terrence O'Neill >>>> > Date: March 22, 2010 12:00:17 PM EDT >>>> > To: lml@lancaironline.net >>>> > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair 235 >>>> >=20 >>>> >=20 >>>> > Lorn, >>>> > Quick question: why is the 320 some 15 knots faster than the 235 = w/ 320 engine with less wetted area (slightly smaller fuselage)? >>>> > Terrence (w/ 235 w/ 320 engine) N211AL >>>>=20 >>> -- >>> Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst >>> DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us >>> LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan >=20