X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:27:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.15.138] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with SMTP id 4176737 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:08:57 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.15.138; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 85444 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2010 05:08:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tDFt0Ifo61gbJCPighPobs6h0xTgEytDD8/1HhXRac59Rq6capJYdu6uke/pOmACN+W3xD7spCOuW5SIgX1x+Nm21UDVr2Wofpa7sJr1G9JPy6ZH9KAih0TVrmBeoLtTZyRB1u0ZupE9o4VnjX+P1Lrk8ZjftZh7wGvAdoGtfuw=; X-Original-Message-ID: <117085.85440.qm@web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cR9nxcsVM1ktQXseY5MOvBW.z4hFmvbRoODeUlr7sAKCWBx v4BfNeeMZMgHqDBMG_BwuQXJtGmtBhXf0Zb8ohAh9yTFmhPT.eL0Qghrw7U6 VxuPkJFYllBt6MW1qX.EeidlsRBH14RLTmSTHGwlwb6Z4flCQZFORKx71aPW ac1VPGIT3vQk0Qnlflnjl3n0GETO6_Wg.lWmY4Dy2EMyFuIReHH8op1DhTBH Wol1.XsB7GJDcfJU.TKcmZF.vQD.fFOEeTyeTbbepYw9jUEtu2_ARdPs1Vxh ptOvxZownah5Nk8p5wPifLMwgD25ozzBKQe8Oz2kBNgqNb4zxcbLIKIvLHeh E.3YK0K_ZZ8dcH0h.JmTXnHyLq55WU3EJyNuI1w-- Received: from [76.8.220.18] by web111402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:08:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair 235 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-419112110-1269407300=:85440" --0-419112110-1269407300=:85440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My numbers are similar to what has been stated. In my 235/320 I am running injected with electronic ignition and MT 3 blade= , best speed for me is at 8000 in cool smooth air 2750 rpm yields198-200 kn= ots TAS depending on the day. Never seen over 200. Burn is 9 GPH rich of pe= ak. This is with the new MT with the schimitar blades. I had the straight b= lades ( until I broke it) and the best I could get with that propeller was = 196 knots TAS never faster. The new prop got me another 4 knots (they predi= cted 5) . I believe the bottom of the 235 wing has more curve at the rear lower airfo= il giving it a slightly down flap effect. Don Goetz told me one day this wa= s done in an attempt to give the wing better low speed characteristics. I a= m amazed at how much the airplane speeds up with the flaps in reflex. 15 kn= ots or so on mine.. It looks to me like the 320/360 wing has the same shape but to a lesser deg= ree resulting in slightly less drag... Randy Snarr 235/320 N694RS --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Lorn H Olsen wrote: From: Lorn H Olsen Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair 235 To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:09 AM Terrence, I don't know for sure. Here are some possibilities. 1)=A0 I could just be wrong. 2)=A0 Reports from 235/320 owners that I have spoken to could understate th= e speed. 3)=A0 Reports on the 320 from the factory could overstate the speed. 4)=A0 The rectangular cowling on the 235/320 could make a difference. How fast does your 235/320 cruise at 8 gph. Lorn > From: Terrence O'Neill > Date: March 22, 2010 12:00:17 PM EDT > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair 235 >=20 >=20 > Lorn, > Quick question:=A0 why is the 320 some 15 knots faster than the 235 w/ 32= 0 engine with less wetted area (slightly smaller fuselage)? > Terrence (w/ 235 w/ 320 engine) N211AL -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =0A=0A=0A --0-419112110-1269407300=:85440 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My numbers are similar to what has been state= d.
In my 235/320 I am running injected with electronic ignition and MT 3= blade, best speed for me is at 8000 in cool smooth air 2750 rpm yields198-= 200 knots TAS depending on the day. Never seen over 200. Burn is 9 GPH rich= of peak. This is with the new MT with the schimitar blades. I had the stra= ight blades ( until I broke it) and the best I could get with that propelle= r was 196 knots TAS never faster. The new prop got me another 4 knots (they= predicted 5) .
I believe the bottom of the 235 wing has more curve at t= he rear lower airfoil giving it a slightly down flap effect. Don Goetz told= me one day this was done in an attempt to give the wing better low speed c= haracteristics. I am amazed at how much the airplane speeds up with the fla= ps in reflex. 15 knots or so on mine..
It looks to me like the 320/360 w= ing has the same shape but to a lesser degree resulting in slightly less drag.= ..

Randy Snarr
235/320
N694RS

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, L= orn H Olsen <lorn@dynacomm.us> wrote:

From: Lorn H Olsen <lorn@dynacomm.us>
Subject: [LML] R= e: Lancair 235
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 201= 0, 6:09 AM

Terrence,

I don't know fo= r sure. Here are some possibilities.

1)  I could just be wrong.=
2)  Reports from 235/320 owners that I have spoken to could unders= tate the speed.
3)  Reports on the 320 from the factory could overs= tate the speed.
4)  The rectangular cowling on the 235/320 could ma= ke a difference.

How fast does your 235/320 cruise at 8 gph.

= Lorn

> From: Terrence O'Neill <troneill@charter.net>
> Date: March 22, 2010 12:0= 0:17 PM EDT
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> = Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair 235
>
>
> Lorn,
> = Quick question:  why is the 320 some 15 knots faster than the 235 w/ 3= 20 engine with less wetted area (slightly smaller fuselage)?
> Terren= ce (w/ 235 w/ 320 engine) N211AL

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Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA= , ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst
DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:l= orn@dynacomm.us
LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,700 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE= Michigan


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