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To Kevin's point -- I too like to go places, fast. At high altitude, and pressurized. And to be real honest, very honest, I don't mind people liking my plane when I'm on the ground.
My previous ride was a Cessna T210L. It cruised at about 165kts, and would hold 4 fat people, golf clubs, and a load of cinder blocks. And full fuel.
It was a tank: functional and homely as my first girl friend.
No one ever told me my girlfriend was pretty. No one ever said, "Nice Plane." I rationalized that both were functional.
Now I fly the IVP. Women think I'm a golfer, or a congressman, or a chopper motorcycle builder. I tell them my name is Tiger James Edwards. And the pick-up is paid for, and I won this big belt buckle in a rodeo. Riding bulls.
Guys drool. Envy. They peek in through the windows while I'm eating my $2,000 hamburger (I've haven't run a full amortization yet, and there are too many variables, but I think the "$100.00" burger is very understated).
Planes are a discretionary income toy. You can get all rational and run numbers and dither and think, and, like women -- if the plane doesn't bounce your hormones, you should walk away.
Like women, planes have so many negatives, especially over the long term, that if you don't just fundamentally adore them, on an irrational emotional level, the relationship will fall apart.
If you get too rational, the relationship will never happen in the first place. The numbers will NEVER add up.
If I were the last person on earth, I would still love flying my IVP because I love her. She speaks to me. She respects me. And I respect her. Even after the flight. And the next morning.
So don't kid yourself that you can get too rational, and still have a positive emotional relationship. If you don't love it, it ain't worth it.
Cheers,
John Hafen 413AJ
On Mar 23, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Kevin Stallard wrote:
> Mission is important. You are going to have to be happy with what you
> have. Don't buy it just because it is good looking, looks fade when the
> things that are important to you become difficult to realize in the
> plane you just bought.
>
> You are right, while they may retain their value, they won't sell
> quickly. You can't turn it into cash easily....so make sure it really
> does what you want it to do.
>
> I will be a Legacy driver soon, and it fits my mission well. Flying
> just to go fly would get old for me, I need to be accomplishing
> something. Formation flying for the fun of it would get old for me (not
> that I won't learn it) so the things you listed are low on my list. The
> x-country part of my plane holds the majority of what I'm going to use
> it for. I want to go places! I want to go fast and (as Don Barnes so
> eloquently puts it) I want to look good doing it ;)
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
> Chris Floyd
> Sent: March 23, 2010 06:10
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Comparative table/ Legacy vs Rockets
>
> Where was the comparative table about the different Lancairs, You can
> sent it me directly. cof01@bellsouth.net.
> I am still "looking" for a Legacy but the realities of several people
> asking about my mission drove me to come up with an outline.
> I live at Spruce Creek and there are many RV's flying formation for
> the $100 breakfast, $200 in a Legacy, and about 5 SX300's.
> My guess is 65% formation, 15% very light acro and funning around, and
> 20% xcountry. That opens up the Rockets, Harmon and F1,
> I don't want to put out 200-220 for a Legacy that I can't get back
> anytime soon until I am sure. The Rockets are 115-150 and no gear
> questions but 190 to 200KTS cruise whereas the Legacy's seem to cruise
> at about 220-230.
> The Legacy would fly formation with RV's(your opinions please) so more
> opportunity than just the SX group. I don't know of anyone doing this
> now, there may be a reason you would know. The Rockets probably aren't
> fast enough for the SX's , however. I appreciate the input of the
> group, this is kind of like a pig in a poke to me.
> One funny thing, the insurance; on a dollar for dollar, the insurance
> is 25% less for the Legacy. That is curious in that the Rockets can't
> have a gear up are really just a modified RV, which has great rates.
> Bean counters, oh well.
> Please chime in either in the group or personally.
> Thanking you in advance,
> Chris Floyd
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