X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:35:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4174912 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:30:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.146; envelope-from=PJHWFD@aol.com Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2MKTAvK017790 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:10 -0400 Received: from PJHWFD@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.db3.ae398e (34921) for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dc02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc02.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.2]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA036-d3864ba7d30d2c6; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:05 -0400 Received: from webmail-d050 (webmail-d050.sim.aol.com [205.188.167.90]) by smtprly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC026-d3864ba7d30d2c6; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:01 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Inner gear door chatter X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:01 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.2.147.198 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Hebert X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC981571329C82_104C_7EA5_webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31144-STANDARD Received: from 24.2.147.198 by webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com (205.188.167.90) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:01 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CC9815712916FA-104C-3EFE@webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: PJHWFD@aol.com ----------MB_8CC981571329C82_104C_7EA5_webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Jay just to ad a data point to your none retract. My gear will not retract wh= en it is cold. seems the airspeed sensor sticks below 25-30 degrees. I pu= t a bypass switch for cold conditions. May not be your problem. Peter Hebert=20 444 Grey Birch RD=20 Stowe VT 05672=20 802-253-6816 home=20 802-279-6446 mobile -----Original Message----- From: Alain NOIREAUX To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 10:16 am Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Inner gear door chatter Jay ,=20 if your landing gear does not retract after take-off , as you are unable= to know the reason ,check the C/B, try to do another manoeuver and if it= is unsuccessfull ,LAND . Do not try anything else as you must find the= cause of the problem . Put your plane on jacks and then investigate ,as= your plane on jacks is in a SAFE position for that .If there is a mecanic= al reason for your gear to not retract , and you insist to retract it , ma= y be you can ,after several attempts , retract it but be unable to lower= it . So , don't tempt the devil , LAND then check . Alain Noireaux L320 F-PSDV Jay M. Sabot a =C3=A9crit :=20 Upon departure today in my Legacy, the landing gear failed to retract. We= landed and of course everything worked fine once we jacked the plane and= tried it on the ground. However, I noticed that the inner gear door would= chatter upon retraction and not extension. After disconnecting the cylin= der from the gear door, the chatter was evident in the now disconnected hy= draulic actuator. =20 Two questions: =20 Anyone have this occur and does it mean I need to replace the cylinder?=20 I was told that the gear did not retract due to some kind of hydraulic loc= k and simply cracking open the dump valve and then closing it would have= then allowed the gear to retract. Has this happened to everyone with Lega= cy RGs and is there a fix for this? I don=E2=80=99t really understand what= exactly the problem is that is causing it=20 =20 Thanks all. =20 Jay M. Sabot Legacy N26XY 47 hours. =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CC981571329C82_104C_7EA5_webmail-d050.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Jay
 just to ad a data point to your none retract. My gear will not= retract when it is cold. seems the airspeed sensor sticks below 25-30&nbs= p; degrees. I put a bypass switch  for cold conditions.  = May not be your problem.

Peter Hebert
444 Grey Birch RD
Stowe VT 05672
802-253-6816 home
802-279-6446 mobile


-----Original Message-----
From: Alain NOIREAUX <alainoireaux@free.fr>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 10:16 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Inner gear door chatter

Jay ,

if your landing gear does not retract after take-off , as you are unable= to know the reason ,check the C/B, try to do another manoeuver and if it= is unsuccessfull ,LAND . Do not  try anything else as you must find= the cause of the problem . Put your plane on  jacks and then investi= gate ,as your plane on jacks is in a SAFE position for that .If there is= a mecanical reason for your gear to not retract , and you insist to retra= ct it , may be you can ,after several attempts , retract it but be unable= to lower it  . So , don't tempt the devil , LAND then check .
Alain Noireaux  L320  F-PSDV

Jay M. Sabot a =C3=A9crit :=20
Upon departure toda= y in my Legacy, the landing gear failed to retract. We landed and of cours= e everything worked fine once we jacked the plane and tried it on the grou= nd. However, I noticed that the inner gear door would chatter upon retract= ion and not extension.  After disconnecting the cylinder from the gea= r door, the chatter was evident in the now disconnected hydraulic actuator= .
 
Two questions:
 
  1. Anyone have= this occur and does it mean I need to replace the cylinder?
  2. I was told= that the gear did not retract due to some kind of hydraulic lock and simp= ly cracking open the dump valve and then closing it would have then allowe= d the gear to retract. Has this happened to everyone with Legacy RGs and= is there a fix for this? I don=E2=80=99t really understand what exactly= the problem is that is causing it
 
Thanks all.<= /FONT>
 
Jay M. Sabot=
Legacy N26XY=
47 hours.
 
 
 

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