Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #53784
From: <freyas.favored@gmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Vne discussion
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:52:26 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Try google. I did. There is no exact formula. It differs for every type of aircraft (helicopters included) based on a variety of factors. You seem to be looking for a concrete answer for a liquid question.

Kristy

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From: "Wolfgang" <Wolfgang@MiCom.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:18:01 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: Vne discussion

I'm having difficulty understanding why no one can give direct answers.
I'm only looking for the various factors that are used to determine Vne.
Flutter, canopy being sucked off, skin surface excess vibration . . . ? ? ?
. . . not the explecit calculations.
Let's narow it down, what factors for the 300 series and Legacy ?
 
Wolfgang

 

From: "Robert Pastusek" <rpastusek@htii.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Vne discussion
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:37:39 -0500
To: lml@lancaironline.net

Wolfgang,

As has been stated a number of times on this forum, the determination of Vne is a very complex and multi-discipline task. Not to repeat what’s been said many times, the several aero engineers that participate in this forum have suggested that this subject is probably beyond a basic aero engineering degree. You’re unlikely to find one of these people willing to offer a “back of the hand” quick solution. LOTS of information on the internet about this subject, and some serious reading available. a couple of courses on aeronautical design and finite element analysis will give you some idea of what you are looking for. Definitely beyond a simple posting on the LML, IMHO.

Bob


From: Sky2high@aol.com
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Vne discussion
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:37:27 -0500
To: lml
Yes, there was extensive information published here about the Vne determination.
 
Scott Krueger


So . . . am I to conclude that there's nobody on the list that can identify how Vne is determined ?

With all the experience of posters on this list, I'm surprised to say the least.

Is this black magic art or is there some real formula/procedure ?

All I've seen here so far is "is that meadured in IAS, TAS OR Mach ?" or "what is the speed for xxx airframe ?".

. . . but nothing about how the number comes to be.

Wolfgang

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