X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3843117 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:16:43 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=JeQDTPlxR7RfSSwFf9z0f7cWn8ClE44UmKtwtaBXIO5s8VySrrf7yMegUeF5LGsi; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.57.118.63] (helo=ccaselt3) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MlRiB-0007dC-0B for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:16:07 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <025601ca3179$997e1020$6d01a8c0@nvidia.com> From: "Colyn Case at earthlink" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair ES tow X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:16:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0253_01CA3158.121DDAF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9405e7c46478c992ba234bd65116ae57d40350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.57.118.63 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0253_01CA3158.121DDAF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe, I do not have a nose dragger. I have an electric tow buddy. Two things to look out for: 1) lack of weight over the wheel. I thought I could overcome this with = my own boddy weight but not really. 2) max speed is what gets you airplane inertia to get over bumps or ice = if you have any. the electric two buddy is too slow. My nominations: a) run out lawn tractor with tow bar. b) super-tow with the turntable under the nosewheel. c) winch Colyn ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joseph Neustein=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair ES tow Thanks to all who responded. I think some of the options suggested by = the retractable crowd may not work well with the ES nose wheel fairing. = I am summarizing the options so far: allenmachine airplane winch with remote control about $410 http://allenmachineco.com/pages/data/airplane.htm (seems compatible with any airplane) 40 EZ power tow $1195 plus Columbia nylon Bushing $65 and 10" = extensions $40 shipping $100 http://www.powertow.com/40ez1.html ( JHeizer@comcast.net had an earlier post that he had used the = powertow) Wag-Aero electric tow buddy $1185 http://store.wagaero.com/product_info.php?products_id=3D14093 ( no comments from ES owners ) aero- tow E200 $1325 dolly wheels $50 shipping extra http://www.aero-tow.com/E200.html (no comments from ES owners) Nose dragger $1450 24volt up to 6,000# 1350 12V up to 3000# BATTERIES = NOT INCLUDED :( see web site for quite a difference in price options for = batteries http://dragger.com/battery-selection-for-12-24-volt-dragger/) https://dragger.com/Nose-Dragger-DRAGGER/ (used successfully by many ES owners) I am leaning towards the Nose dragger as being the least likely to = scuff the wheel fairings or over torque the tow ear attatchment to the = strut. Joe Neustein ESP phase I ------=_NextPart_000_0253_01CA3158.121DDAF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joe,
I do not have a nose dragger. I have an = electric=20 tow buddy.
Two things to look out = for:
1) lack of weight over the = wheel.   I=20 thought I could overcome this with my own boddy weight but not=20 really.
2) max speed is what gets you airplane = inertia to=20 get over bumps or ice if you have any.   the electric two = buddy is too=20 slow.
 
My nominations:
a) run out lawn tractor with tow = bar.
b) super-tow with the turntable under = the=20 nosewheel.
c) winch
 
Colyn
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joseph=20 Neustein
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, = 2009 12:07=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair ES = tow

Thanks to all who responded. I think some of the options = suggested by the=20 retractable crowd may not work well with the ES nose wheel fairing. I = am=20 summarizing the options so far:
 
allenmachine airplane winch with remote control about $410
http://allenmachineco.com/pages/data/airplane.htm
(seems compatible with any airplane)
 
40 EZ power tow $1195 plus Columbia nylon = Bushing=20 $65  and 10" extensions $40 shipping $100
http://www.powertow.com/40ez1= .html
( JHeizer@comcast.net  ha= d an=20 earlier post that he had used the powertow)
 
Wag-Aero electric tow buddy $1185
ht= tp://store.wagaero.com/product_info.php?products_id=3D14093
 ( no comments from ES owners )
 
aero- tow E200 $1325 dolly wheels $50 shipping extra
http://www.aero-tow.com/E200.h= tml
(no comments from ES owners)
 
Nose dragger $1450 24volt up to 6,000# 1350 12V up to 3000#  = BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED :( see web site for quite a difference in price = options=20 for batteries htt= p://dragger.com/battery-selection-for-12-24-volt-dragger/)=
https://dragger.com/No= se-Dragger-DRAGGER/
(used successfully by many ES owners)
 
I am leaning towards the Nose dragger as being the least likely = to scuff=20 the wheel fairings or over torque the tow ear attatchment to the = strut.
 
Joe Neustein
ESP phase I
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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