X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:49:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from n8b.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.87.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with SMTP id 3823981 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:15:21 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.87.105; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [209.191.108.97] by n8.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2009 15:14:45 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.25] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2009 15:14:45 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.162] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2009 15:14:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp103.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2009 15:14:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 293136.53804.bm@omp103.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45250 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Aug 2009 15:14:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bKpoo3SyTo1N6za6jEH1D/YYKTfCyXqN5Mab8A7IokFaFZvzTokYresMsASMwhNBNzkc9+Dw23gnKOs9DJcz4QQ9Lz+BBdgmZQ0/R5Nsxt4uA/iTo5fSxzrQrXd8fRQpvkdFr2iwby/Tp2xlf4DLU2jiMcmp4ABKLBdZuIl/CXM=; X-Original-Message-ID: <49961.41463.qm@web57509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pBzaVpQVM1kHmQO7jQmI0stAbVAOGe_7S7_sV0bPuyHXywMd37Etm6_57ExDxFlIVykGtkwhi4PhL8KRdIJ.byhgGVY.PjI_B8AfSm4byFZFsDhQu_BoOq_u8l2fEllgVep8EkWK3p_FXv2cTypbkdrdX2JMXoGe7Yk9.D_OLK8n1X8WxfRhHucaf.EOvA3Kji7EKUd7lfzPMXlimqgZm4IbpXBDtpCblS3IxBE4QO0V8QEPiSwGPfL5vz7ufVG0ymIa83hIw0gTKTNHKErSyyRnGJ4- Received: from [64.211.51.6] by web57509.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:14:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:14:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Plenum pressure and Injector performance LOP X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1358805043-1251213262=:41463" --0-1358805043-1251213262=:41463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The vent on each injector is there to normalize the pressure drop across th= e injector and to improve the atomization.=A0 If the engine air inlet is ve= ry efficient the pressure in the manifold may be close or maybe even higher= than the pressure around the injector, reversing the direction of air flow= through the vents.=A0 This is the case if the pressure recovery in the eng= ine inlet is more than the pressure recovery of the cooling air.=A0 Then fu= el will either be poorly atomized or can actually be blown out the injector= through the vents.=A0 Some people have seen fuel stains around the injecto= r, proof that this is happening.=A0 The poor atomization can cause irregula= r fuel flow into the engine, creating a rough condition.=A0 Some people hav= e used the "turbo" shrouds around the injectors to source the bleed air to = a higher pressure source, presumably the engine air inlet ahead of the filt= er.=A0 This gives the best possible chance at sufficient atomization.=A0 Others have run the vents to a "pitot tube" inlet ahead of the engine air = cooling inlets.=A0 Regardless, the idea is to get the pressure surrounding = the injectors as high as possible.=A0 Once I was thinking of ducting the va= cuum pump outlet to the=A0injectors - but didn't, as I wasn't sure about th= e relative air flow.=A0 Within reason you can't get it too high.=0AGary Cas= ey=0A=0A=0ANote: Forwarded message is attached.=0AHey guys, I am rememberin= g a long time ago reading about=0Ahow the air pressure surrounding the inje= ctor can affect how=0Awell the injector works.=A0 If I'm not mistaken, turb= ocharged=0Aengines even use some pressure manifold around the injector=0Ato= accommodate for the increased Manifold Pressure.=0A=0A....=A0 The cowl is = known to often have too little exit=0Aarea, so it could be that the pressur= e differential is=0Aeven too high between the top and bottom half of the=0A= cowl.=0A=0AAny insight you can give?=0AThanks,=0ATim=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1358805043-1251213262=:41463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The vent on each injector is there to normalize the pr= essure drop across the injector and to improve the atomization.  If th= e engine air inlet is very efficient the pressure in the manifold may be cl= ose or maybe even higher than the pressure around the injector, reversing t= he direction of air flow through the vents.  This is the case if the p= ressure recovery in the engine inlet is more than the pressure recovery of = the cooling air.  Then fuel will either be poorly atomized or can actu= ally be blown out the injector through the vents.  Some people have se= en fuel stains around the injector, proof that this is happening.  The= poor atomization can cause irregular fuel flow into the engine, creating a= rough condition.  Some people have used the "turbo" shrouds around the injectors to source the bleed air to a higher pressure source, presuma= bly the engine air inlet ahead of the filter.  This gives the best pos= sible chance at sufficient atomization.  Others have run the vents to = a "pitot tube" inlet ahead of the engine air cooling inlets.  Regardle= ss, the idea is to get the pressure surrounding the injectors as high as po= ssible.  Once I was thinking of ducting the vacuum pump outlet to the&= nbsp;injectors - but didn't, as I wasn't sure about the relative air flow.&= nbsp; Within reason you can't get it too high.
Gary Casey
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Note: Forwarded message is attached.
Hey guys, I am= remembering a long time ago reading about
how the air pressure surround= ing the injector can affect how
well the injector works.  If I'm no= t mistaken, turbocharged
engines even use some pressure manifold around = the injector
to accommodate for the increased Manifold Pressure.

= .....  The cowl is known to often have too little exit
area, so it c= ould be that the pressure differential is
even too high between the top = and bottom half of the
cowl.

Any insight you can give?
Thanks,=
Tim

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