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From: randy snarr <randylsnarr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: OSH arrival
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On a side note, I left OSH to meet some friends at Door County about 90 NM =
north east. Beautiful country by the way. Anyway, whilst taking my time com=
ing back and enjoying the sights, I overheard ATC on 120.7 say the field wa=
s closing 15 minutes early. Crap!!! There was no way for me to make it to R=
ipon from where I was in time. I thought a minute and called the tower and =
identified myself and asked confidently for the war bird arrival.=0AThey br=
ought be right in on RW 27. I was the last plane to land that day before th=
e airshow..In fact the whole potato waited until I got out of the way to st=
art the airshow...=0A=0AThanks to all who lobbied hard for the faster plane=
s to use this approach. I just kept it fire walled to maintain just below 2=
00 KTS so they would not suspect I was a 235/320 impersonating a Legacy. I =
promise not to abuse this privilege... unless I get in another bind...=0A=
=0ABTW, OSH was a blast this year. Hope everyone enjoyed it as much as I di=
d...=0A=0ARandy L. Snarr=0AN694RS 235/320=0A=0A--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Wendell=
 Solesbee <Wendell@solesbeeauto.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: Wendell Solesbee <=
Wendell@solesbeeauto.com>=0A> Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival=0A> To: lml@la=
ncaironline.net=0A> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 4:03 PM=0A> =0A> =0A>=
  =0A> #yiv17088201 .hmmessage P {=0A> PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDIN=
G-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;}=0A> #yiv17088201 {=0A> FONT-=
FAMILY:Verdana;FONT-SIZE:10pt;}=0A> =0A> =0A>  =0A>  =0A> We did the same, =
no=0A> probem.=0A> =A0=0A> Wendell Solesbee IVP=0A> N4LK=0A> =0A>   ----- O=
riginal Message=0A> ----- =0A>   From: =0A>   Craig Gainza=0A> =0A>   To: l=
ml@lancaironline.net=0A> =0A>   Sent: Tuesday,=0A> August 18, 2009 1:32 =0A=
>   PM=0A>   Subject: [LML] Re:=0A> OSH arrival=0A>   =0A> The warbird arri=
val is the best way to go.=A0 We=0A> call in =0A>   black and white Lancair=
 over Fond du Lac and have never=0A> been questioned.=A0 =0A>   This year t=
hey asked us if we could keep our speed up in=0A> front of the mass =0A>   =
arrival of 40+ RV's.=A0 No problem!=0A> =0A> We were out of the airplane at=
 =0A>   Aeroshell square before the RV's landed.=0A> =0A> Craig and Sandy =
=0A>   Gainza=0A> IV-P=A0 =0A> =0A> =0A>   =0A>   To: lml@lancaironline.net=
=0A> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:24:00 -0400=0A> From: =0A>   vtailjeff@aol.c=
om=0A> Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival =0A> =0A> nope--not at all =0A>   =0A=
> =0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: Colyn Case at earthlink =
=0A>   <colyncase@earthlink.net>=0A> To: lml@lancaironline.net=0A> Sent: Mo=
n, Aug =0A>   17, 2009 6:52 am=0A> Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival =0A> =0A>=
 =0A>   =0A>   do you actually have to=0A> lie to get the warbird =0A>   ar=
rival?=0A>   =0A>     ----- =0A>     Original Message ----- =0A>     From:=
=0A> =0A>     Wendell=0A> Solesbee =0A>     To:=0A> =0A>     lml@lancaironl=
ine.net=0A> =0A>     Sent:=0A> =0A>     Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:49 PM=0A>=
     Subject:=0A> =0A>     [LML] Re: OSH arrival =0A>     =0A> =0A>     I u=
sed the warbird=0A> arrival this year with no =0A>     problems. I reported=
 at Fond du Lac and again at=0A> Warbird Island and was =0A>     cleared to=
 land on runway 36. Other than a 20 kt=0A> crosswind there were no =0A>    =
 problems. IN 2008=A0when using the FISK arrival I=0A> had to go around thr=
ee =0A>     times. When I tried to extend out to give myself some=0A> room =
someone would cut =0A>     in front of me.On the last go around=A0I passed =
a=0A> bonanza on=A0about =0A>     a=A0one mile final and landed ahead of hi=
m. That=0A> experience made me =0A>     decide to use the warbird arrival=
=A0the next year=0A> and it worked =0A>     great.=A0=A0=0A>     =A0=0A>   =
  Wendell Solesbee=0A> IVP=A0 N4LK=0A>     =0A>       ----- =0A>       Orig=
inal Message ----- =0A>       From:=0A> =0A>       Douglas=0A> Brunner =0A>=
       To:=0A> =0A>       lml@lancaironline.net=0A> =0A>       Sent:=0A> =
=0A>       Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:33 AM=0A>       Subject:=0A> =0A>     =
  [LML] Re: OSH arrival =0A>       =0A> =0A>       Bill,=0A>       =A0=0A> =
      I absolutely agree=0A> with you.=A0 I avoid =0A>       flying into Os=
hkosh and Sun n Fun for much the same=0A> reasons as you detail =0A>       =
below.=0A>       =A0=0A>       Tried to get the=0A> warbird arrival last =
=0A>       year.=A0 I even arranged it with the tower at Fond=0A> du Lac.=
=A0 On my =0A>       way in to Oshkosh, I was asked if I was a Warbird - I=
=0A> honestly told them I =0A>       was not -=A0they told me I could not h=
ave the=0A> warbird arrival.=A0 I =0A>       then tried to get the "turbine=
 arrival" -=0A> they asked me if I was a turbine =0A>       - again I repli=
ed honestly and they told me I could=0A> not have the "turbine =0A>       a=
rrival".=A0 I was forced to make a short=0A> pattern and land on the =0A>  =
     taxiway - which=0A> actually=A0worked=A0OK.=0A>       =A0=0A>       I =
don't think=0A> the Oshkosh controllers have =0A>       any idea about the =
V speeds of the planes they are=0A> controlling.=A0 =0A>       Their emphas=
is is on getting everyone in as quickly=0A> as possible whether =0A>       =
safely or not.=0A>       =A0=0A>       =A0=0A>    =0A> =0A=0A=0A