Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #51811
From: Bill Wade <super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: life time of components in experimentals
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:28:55 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Jeff-
       The FAR's don't contain that information. I may have overstated the situation however my operating limitations dated 6/2/99 require an Annual Inspection IAW Appendix D, Part 43. It can only be performed by an A&P or Repair Station. In practice my IA has always signed off on work that I've done and we've filed numerous 337's. Excessive? Perhaps, but until the FAA ruined the approval process it worked for all concerned.
 
  However, 8130.2F CHG3 (the latest iteration that I have) Section 9, 153 Issuance of Experimental Amateur-built Operating Limitations states:

(22) No person must operate this aircraft unless within the preceding 12 calendar months it has

had a condition inspection performed in accordance with the scope and detail of appendix D to part 43,

or other FAA-approved programs, and was found to be in a condition for safe operation. As part of the

condition inspection, cockpit instruments must be appropriately marked and needed placards installed in

accordance with § 91.9. In addition, system-essential controls must be in good condition, securely

mounted, clearly marked, and provide for ease of operation. This inspection will be recorded in the

aircraft maintenance records.

(26) An experimental aircraft builder certificated as a repairman for this aircraft under § 65.104

or an appropriately rated FAA-certificated mechanic may perform the condition inspection required by

these operating limitations.

  These requirements are a part of all Experimental operating limitations. From my point of view an A&P or the holder of the Repairman's Certificate (the original builder) will have to sign off on any work done sooner or later. In support of your argument, (19) states that the "aircraft owner" notifies the appropriate FSDO if any major change is performed and fills out a revised 8130-6 Application for US Airworthiness Certificate. I can't say what a FSDO might do at that point though.   -Bill Wade

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: life time of components in experimentals

Bill,

Could you cite the regulation or Advisory Circular that says if you did not build it (an experimental aircraft) any subsequent work has to be approved ( I presume an A&P signoff)?  Part 43 specifies who may maintain an aircraft. 43.1 exempts experimental aircraft from the rest of the rquirements of Part 43 except for aircraft that have had other airworthiness certificates previously issued (your Chipmunk).

I am not aware of any requirement by the FAA that requires non builders of experimental aircraft have an A&P do the work, supervise the work or sign off the work.

Best Regards,

Jeff Edwards


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