Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #51800
From: Colyn Case at earthlink <colyncase@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [LML] IV-P Kit For Sale
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:08:53 -0400
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Hi Bill,
I remember talking to you in 2004 or so.
I think you are making the right decision.   My airplane (IV-P) first flew in January 2007 and it is IMO still not airworthy.
It was "complete" in 2004 so I've been running 5 years on this project and still a ways to go.
 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: [LML] IV-P Kit For Sale

Posted for "Bill George" <bgeorge49@gmail.com>:

LANCAIR IV-P KIT FOR SALE
 
 It is with great regret that I feel it is time to get on with my flying life
 by selling my kit and buying a flying airplane. I was 72 in December, and
 according to Sky Smith, it is no longer possible to get insurance for a
 pressurized airplane if you are over 70. Also, since I have been retired for
 a number of years, I don’t know how I could afford the
 engine/prop/instrument panel on my income.
 
 I purchased the kit in September of 1996. It is an "old" fastbuild kit
 serial number LIV-329FB-P.
 
 I have done almost all the work myself, and I would be willing to put my
 backside and all attached parts in this project. So I don't have to recover
 very much "paid help" time. I did hire Jerry Parks to do the wing to
 fuselage mating at his shop in Redmond. He also worked firewall to new
 fastbuild type (glass to glass areas for mounting hardware).
 
 
                             
 If you have any questions, please feel free to call or e-mail me. I have
 additional photos, but these are the ones I took at the request of a
 previous interested buyer.
 
 
 I will try to explain what I have completed according to the builders
 manual
 index to chapters.
 
 Chapter 2 - Horizontal Stabilizer - Complete, except for elevator
 counterweight closeout area (BL 62).
 
 Chapter 3 - Elevators – Closed, Trim Tab - Fitted, but not complete. Trim
 Servo Mount completed
  (Alternate Method from Lancair News N/L)
  Counterbalancing - Weight installed prior to closing.
 Elevator/Stab counterweight interface NOT DONE.
                  Elevator Travel Stops - NOT DONE
 
 Chapter 5 - Main Wing Spar Closeout – As Completed at Factory
 
 Chapter 6 - Wing Construction – Left Wing - Extended fuel to BL 171, using
 Winglets
                    Hole drilled for fuel pickup, pickup NOT installed (I
 have both 3/8”& ˝” screen pickups)
                    Electrical Conduit installed in leading edge like later
 fast build kit. - Complete
                    Tiedown Done - New fast build location
 
 Chapter 6 - Wing Construction - Right Wing
  Some Fuel vents completed, holes for electrical conduit
 drilled in leading edge ribs, conduit bonded in, close
 out spars cut & fitted, not bonded in.
 
 Chapter 7 & 8 – Flaps & Ailerons
  I purchased the fast build ailerons & flaps from
 Lancair, spent a week in their build shop to install them. They are
 substantially installed, but not complete. No instructions are included for
 this. Bottom wing skins have been trimmed in the flap area as in new FB.
 
 Chapter 12 - Firewall & Bulkheads – This chapter is a mixed bag of slow
 build & FB instructions.
 
 Chapter 16 – Wing Mating to Fuselage - Done by Jerry Parks
 
 I have pictures, and can take more digital pictures to show whatever you
 like. I can also scan in Construction Manual pages if you have particular
 questions.
 
 As far as parts, ALL Lancair supplied standard parts are included.
 
 Options that I have bought over the years are as follows:
 
 1) High Energy Brake System (Lancair)
 2) Annuniciator panel - Jim Franz (Proprietary Software Systems)
 3) AOA PRO System - Jim Franz (Proprietary Software Systems)
 4) Fuel/Water Separator (Lancair)
 5) Locking Fuel Caps (Lancair)
 6) Electric Speed Brakes - Bill Maddox (Superior Aircraft Systems)
 7) Static Wick Kit - Bill Maddox (Superior Aircraft Systems)
 8) Winglets (VOR Antennas Installed) (Purchased from Walter Dodson)
 9) 12' Fuel probes & Fuel Gauge (Vision MicroSystems)
 10) Nose gear strut up to date as of 11/01/06
 
 Setting a price is very difficult. I would like to recover my entire
 investment (approximately $116,000), but I know that is not possible. The
 price I have
 established is a starting point. Feel free to suggest what you are willing
 to pay for it. Remember the new price from Lancair is $129,900, and wing
 mating, fire wall prep, Fastbuild Vertical Stab/Rudder and flaps/ailerons
 that are part of the “new” fastbuild cost me $17,000.
 
 So my initial asking price for everything is $87,000. If you don't want the
 fixtures, deduct $2,000. I am open to discussion.
 
 
 The following fixtures are available as well but are very heavy, will be
 very costly to ship:
 Tables - (4) 8 feet x 30 inches
 Wing Cradles
Fuselage rotation jig (built to Bob Pastusek’s design)
 
 Buyer pays all shipping costs.
 
 
 
 William L. (Bill) George
 8820 Rock Creek Road
 Placerville, CA  95667bgeorge49@gmail.com
 530-642-8063
 530-306-1922 (Cell)
 
 


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