X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:20:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from n67.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.47] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with SMTP id 3610171 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:37:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.136.44.47; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n67.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2009 10:36:30 -0000 Received: from [68.142.237.89] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2009 10:36:30 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.143] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2009 10:36:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp201.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2009 10:36:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 67455.35696.bm@omp201.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 3898 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2009 10:36:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=57yF4Smih/NZr12ktKntL5YydUYDwiKOiq6RT6705wG0wJBxg8VGN1zsoymm0q2ZJrlzXNISHbytI4z7CO//8WKYeEajqWNzFjaFpPmgn+NODWQmf9E7nc0Gf/+ENyK9EzmuAMh+iVjQI+rR3Rqx+x8IziJEASkZJdnMMgPUmg4=; X-Original-Message-ID: <841048.3184.qm@web57513.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XL.ceEEVM1n4sMkaK5IYF080jpc1eRz1QKFHgRqwhcCdvTl_lHhOT4nrgcZWpDU.OL6qs06jjIuh1AaZzZcVaO7iWk7Ln4VLWv19b5N0S9Hi3SPu7Dc8.jEHjRAljIv35ATeHPZoRPiUOC7ThEWgq3Ze6H4f61OnWjY7tGpyeXIViWQ2uAjWT.R5GbPo6zFUQJ8itd3UUUZoazHJsw.0wiMTJ4oPU3nNOVjFhzoXW2PHFmgfMafRcQbiVSF.kSd7zfN8HDoQ5UtwgBYaaQaoR8B5 Received: from [97.122.158.231] by web57513.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:36:29 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Subject: Tungsten and other heavy metals X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-346729277-1241001389=:3184" --0-346729277-1241001389=:3184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There was some discussion on the use of tungsten as a balance weight, so I = did some research on the density of various materials - here is a list of a= pproximate specific gravities:=0ATypical epoxy resin - 1.5=0AAluminum - 2.6= =0ASteel - 7.8=0ALead - 11.3=0Atungsten - 19.2=0A=0AIt would appear that th= e higher density of tungsten would allow a more compact balance weight, all= owing the weight to be more concentrated to the extremity of the available = space, reducing the overall weight. But things are not usually as simple a= s they at first seem. In order for lead to be effectively used it has to b= e cast in a shape to fit the space, which is what I did. It is hard to get= all the air bubbles out, but a lead casting can be reasonably dense. The = tungsten, however must be used in the form of powder or rods held together = by an epoxy matrix. I don't have directly-related experience, but I would = guess that it would be very difficult to get a 90% by volume tungsten mixtu= re in epoxy (resulting specific gravity =3D 17.4) and if one was a little t= oo casual and wanted to get an easily pourable mixture he could end up with= a 50% mixture (specific gravity =3D 10.4), less dense than a lead casting.= With reasonable care, which means careful measuring of the epoxy and thoroughly mixing without trapping too much air= I would guess a 70% mix is reasonable and 80% is possible, but not likely.= In comparison, rods perfectly nested in a linear pattern, not hexagonal, = will be 78% "packed." A 70% mix will yield a specific gravity of 13.9, 23%= greater than lead. Will that reduce the overall balancing weight by 23%? = No, because only part of that weight is at a small radius - the weight sav= ings is more likely to be about 10% or less. Is it worth the trouble? It = might be if an accurate lead casting is particularly difficult, but otherwi= se I doubt it - at least that was the reasoning when I decided to use lead.= =0A=0AGary Casey=0A=0A=0A --0-346729277-1241001389=:3184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There was some discussion on the use of tungsten a= s a balance weight, so I did some research on the density of various materi= als - here is a list of approximate specific gravities:
Typical e= poxy resin - 1.5
Aluminum - 2.6
Steel - 7.8
L= ead - 11.3
tungsten - 19.2

It would appe= ar that the higher density of tungsten would allow a more compact balance w= eight, allowing the weight to be more concentrated to the extremity of the = available space, reducing the overall weight. =A0But things are not usually= as simple as they at first seem. =A0In order for lead to be effectively us= ed it has to be cast in a shape to fit the space, which is what I did. =A0I= t is hard to get all the air bubbles out, but a lead casting can be reasonably dense. =A0The tungsten, however must be used in the form of pow= der or rods held together by an epoxy matrix. =A0I don't have directly-rela= ted experience, but I would guess that it would be very difficult to get a = 90% by volume tungsten mixture in epoxy (resulting specific gravity =3D 17.= 4) and if one was a little too casual and wanted to get an easily pourable = mixture he could end up with a 50% mixture (specific gravity =3D 10.4), les= s dense than a lead casting. =A0With reasonable care, which means careful m= easuring of the epoxy and thoroughly mixing without trapping too much air I= would guess a 70% mix is reasonable and 80% is possible, but not likely. = =A0In comparison, rods perfectly nested in a linear pattern, not hexagonal,= will be 78% "packed." =A0A 70% mix will yield a specific gravity of 13.9, = 23% greater than lead. =A0Will that reduce the overall balancing weight by = 23%? =A0No, because only part of that weight is at a small radius - the wei= ght savings is more likely to be about 10% or less. =A0Is it worth the trouble= ? =A0It might be if an accurate lead casting is particularly difficult, but= otherwise I doubt it - at least that was the reasoning when I decided to u= se lead.

Gary Casey

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