X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:00:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from betsy.gendns5.com ([65.254.38.234] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTPS id 3597192 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:17:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.254.38.234; envelope-from=paul@tbm700.com Received: from [97.104.178.107] (port=56040 helo=[192.168.1.123]) by betsy.gendns5.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ly59f-0003pW-5H for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:16:28 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <018251DA-1B62-4910-96B4-43A6FA2302BD@tbm700.com> From: paul miller X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Getting personal X-Original-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:16:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - betsy.gendns5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tbm700.com The purpose of this mailing list is not to attack people or ideas and the point of having a moderator is to weed out posts that don't fit the mailing list's guidelines. For example, the moderator should show a little tough love and toss postings that: 1) Make inflammatory statements or state claims without providing some verifiable reference 2) attack a person or a person's credibility or work 3) contain material generally not pertaining to the goal of the mailing list 4) Are of such adversarial tone that further discussion would be inhibited or unproductive 5) Criticize an idea without providing thoughtful alternatives 6) Are obviously written in haste and should be returned so the author can have a second chance to improve the post Apologies must be forthcoming when a mistake is made. I apologize in advance if there is already a significant filtering of postings and the recent ones are accidental. But a moderator can enlist people to help moderate using guidelines. Larger lists do that all the time to keep the flow going while people are busy. Moderator(s) can save hundreds of people from wasting time on bad postings. The recent bashing of people on this list simply keeps good people from participating and allows a few bullies to rule the subject matter. Can we clean it up and stick to finding solutions and encouraging participation and the spreading of useful knowledge? Paul Miller N357V Legacy RG 186