X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:22:51 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.159.7] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3596327 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:05:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.159.7; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-d06.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN4-549f30a781d8; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:04:56 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id q.bf3.541eb470 (37165) for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.152]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA044-5bc949f30a6e133; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:04:48 -0400 Received: from webmail-de02 (webmail-de02.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.23]) by smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB018-5bc949f30a6e133; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:04:46 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Insurance X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:04:46 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB93BD8B26C518_10B0_2C15_webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42679-STANDARD Received: from 75.58.187.84 by webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:04:46 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CB93BD8AFE3CFC-10B0-161F@webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO ----------MB_8CB93BD8B26C518_10B0_2C15_webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" is that $7200 total premium for how much hull coverage? or a $7200 increase in premium to something north of a $14,000 premiem? Buying insurance these days is like purchasing an airline ticket. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: zoelt@sio.midco.net To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:09 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance If you know Charlie its not "Same song, second verse." Hes only out to inject some reason in this whole fiasco My local CFI's admit the know nothing about a Lancair's nuances. I've already signed on with the new company with my AIG app and recurrent training (yes, HPAT) documentation.$7200 (10% increase)for $1M smooth but I'm no low time pilot. TMZ, N524JG, LNC4P -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:43 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance Same song second verse. Now instead of Lancair controlling who can do the training, we will have Charlie Kohler doing it. That means that the flight instructors he picks and gets "regionally set" can charge exorbitant fees just like the situation now. The FAA approves flight instructors. What is wrong with that? Part of the training the FAA has for flight instructor qualification is developing a training syllabus. Is Charlie that much better at that effort? This whole issue is nuts. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dr. Weinsweig Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:32 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance what company and who do we contact? david weinsweig n750dw propjet >>> charliekohler@yahoo.com 04/21/2009 6:33:48 PM >>> Today I received word that we now have a new company on board writing policies at the appx' the same rates AIG had a year ago and with several extra large benefits. The deductibles are $250 not in motion/$2500 in motion. Training will be through independent flight instructors that are approved by the underwriters. They have asked me to help in that selection and set the training syllabus. I have contacted several instructors around the country and hopefully we can get this regionally set so that travel/weather and other concerns will be easier to manage. Additionally, A Lancair Company inspection will not be required for initia l or pre-purchase. Again, They will have individual Lancair builder/FAA maintenance folks located around the country to help with this. I'm signing up today. Charlie K. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ----------MB_8CB93BD8B26C518_10B0_2C15_webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" is that $7200 total premium for how much hull coverage? or a $7200 increase in premium to something north of a $14,000 premiem? Buying insurance these days is like purchasing an airline ticket.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: zoelt@sio.midco.net
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:09 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance

If you know Charlie its not "Same song, second verse."
Hes only out to inject some reason in this whole fiasco
My local CFI's admit the know nothing about a Lancair's nuances.
I've already signed on with the new company with my AIG app and recurrent
training (yes, HPAT) documentation.$7200 (10% increase)for $1M smooth but
I'm no low time pilot.
TMZ, N524JG, LNC4P

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Bradburry
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:43 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance

Same song second verse.  

Now instead of Lancair controlling who can do the training, we will have
Charlie Kohler doing it.  That means that the flight instructors he picks
and gets "regionally set" can charge exorbitant fees just like the situation
now.
The FAA approves flight instructors.  What is wrong with that? Part of the
training the FAA has for flight instructor qualification is developing a
training syllabus.  Is Charlie that much better at that effort?
This whole issue is nuts.  

Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dr.
Weinsweig
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:32 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Insurance

what company and who do we contact?

david weinsweig
n750dw propjet

>>> charliekohler@yahoo.com 04/21/2009 6:33:48 PM >>>


Today I received word that we now have a new company on board writing
policies at the appx' the same rates AIG had a year ago and with several
extra large benefits.  The deductibles are $250 not in motion/$2500 in
motion.  Training will be through independent flight instructors that are
approved by the underwriters.  They have asked me to help in that selection
and set the training syllabus. 
I have contacted several instructors around the country and hopefully we can
get this regionally set so that travel/weather and other concerns will be
easier to manage.
Additionally, A Lancair Company inspection will not be required for initial
or pre-purchase. Again, They will have individual Lancair builder/FAA
maintenance folks located around the country to help with this. 

I'm signing up today.  

Charlie K.

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