X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:11:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-d02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3595356 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:07:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.40; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-d02.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-449f1d51d1de; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:05:01 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id q.cb4.53c9d19c (37163) for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA042-5bbf49f1d50c71; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:04:49 -0400 Received: from webmail-de02 (webmail-de02.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.23]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA036-5bbf49f1d50c71; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:04:44 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Landing distance for a IVP ? X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:04:44 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB930522A1CAF8_11F8_89C7_webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42679-STANDARD Received: from 75.58.187.84 by webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:04:44 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CB930522984188-11F8-4354@webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CB930522A1CAF8_11F8_89C7_webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Brent, Please educate the newcomers to this list about the most unfortunate accid= ent at your place years ago with a pilot who did not "nail" his landing. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Brent Regan To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 7:40 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Landing distance for a IVP ? John asks: << What do you guys use as far as personal minimums in runway length when= landing your IV=E2=80=99s?>>> Home base for me (6ID1) is 2,200' x 40, 2,720 MSL. Due to terrain, landing= is to the east and slightly uphill. Usually there is a 3-5 Kt tail wind.= Landings can be accomplished in 1,400 to 1,800 feet under these condition= s BUT it requires a LOT of practice. For me it took 500 hours in type and= over 1,000 landings before I could consistently nail my intended landing= spot at the needed speed (90 Kts).=C2=A0 Also, forget about greasers, the= se are firm "positive contact" landings that I warn my passengers about.= My first landing in a IV-P was on a 6,000' x 100' field and I needed 5,500= ' of it. There are several Lancairs including at least 2 IVs at KPAO which is 2400= feet and at sea level. As a rule, never land on anything shorter than you have already demonstrat= ed CONSISTENTLY on a longer field. You can land on short fields the same way you get to Carnegie Hall........= . Practice, Practice, Practice. Regards Brent Regan ----------MB_8CB930522A1CAF8_11F8_89C7_webmail-de02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Brent,

Please educate the newcomers to this list about the most unfortunate accid= ent at your place years ago with a pilot who did not "nail" his landing.
Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Regan <brent@regandesigns.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 7:40 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Landing distance for a IVP ?

John asks:
<< What do= you guys use as far as personal minimums in runway length when landing yo= ur IV=E2=80=99s?>>>

Home base for me (6ID1) is 2,200' x 40, 2,720 MSL. Due to terrain, landing= is to the east and slightly uphill. Usually there is a 3-5 Kt tail wind.= Landings can be accomplished in 1,400 to 1,800 feet under these condition= s BUT it requires a LOT of practice. For me it took 500 hours in type and= over 1,000 landings before I could consistently nail my intended landing= spot at the needed speed (90 Kts).  Also, forget about greasers, the= se are firm "positive contact" landings that I warn my passengers about.=

My first landing in a IV-P was on a 6,000' x 100' field and I needed 5,500= ' of it.

There are several Lancairs including at least 2 IVs at KPAO which is 2400= feet and at sea level.

As a rule, never land on anything shorter than you have already demonstrat= ed CONSISTENTLY on a longer field.

You can land on short fields the=3D2 0same way you get to Carnegie Hall......... Practice, Practice, Practice.<= br>
Regards
Brent Regan





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