Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #51178
From: Bob Smiley <rsmiley2@centurytel.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Balancing MkII Elevators
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:40:50 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
A suggestion,
 
I did this on my 360 on the vertidal stabilizer.  The couterweights were placed on the leading edge of the rudder and in the counterweight overhang on top of the rudder.  The moment arm on the leadig edge was about 2 inches verses about 6 inches thus you need only about 1/3rd the weight on the top of the rudder.  My solution was to add 1.5 inches to the height of the rudder and vertical stab.  More room for more lead. overall weight was reduced.
 
An addditional benefit I received was I increased the demonstrated cross wind component for landing.  I landed in a 24 knot crosswind at Jackson Hole Wyoming one time.
 
Bob Smiley
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:26 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Balancing MkII Elevators

I, too, was surprised at how much lead I needed to balance my 360 ailerons.  In fact, I have those lead half-rounds going nearly full-span (two of them, flat surface to flat surface).  But let's stop to think about it.  We need as much "moment" (mass x distance) in front of the hinge line as behind it.  In practice, we have more weight (balance weight) forward of the hinge line than we do behind it (the control surface itself) since the CG of the control surface is generally much further behind the hinge line than the balance weights are forward of it.  This is certainly the case with the ailerons, but less so for the rudder and elevators, since they have those forward overhangs for aerodynamic balance.

For preliminary design purposes, my airplane design group assumes that the balance weights weigh 1.5 times the weight of the control surface alone.

Bottom line -- your balance weights need to be at least as heavy as the control surface, and up to 50% more.

Yup, it's a lot.

- Rob Wolf
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