Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #51087
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Subject: Re: [LML] AW: Gear Free Fall
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:16:35 -0400
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Johannes,
 
I have never had the condition you mention happen to me.  In my system there has always been a path back to the pump reservoir, thru the pump valves.
 
Scott Krueger
 
In a message dated 4/16/2009 1:59:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jschredl@web.de writes:
Dom,
 
I can confirm your observations!
Many years ago I dicussed this subject with NEICO and gave them following explanation:
- when hydraulic pump is off it shut off the high and low pressure lines too
- opening the free fall valve create a short way of the two chambers of the hydraulic actuator
- problem is: the chamber capacity of the retracting is smaller than the extending caused by the piston rod
- hydraulic fluid is almoust incompressible
- now free fall of gear
- this cause a vacuum in the pusing sinde of the actuator (too less fluid for chamber) 
- the lowering gear has to work against this vacuum
- the vacuum gradually disapear because of air leakage through the o-rings
 
You can  do the opposite test:
- when gear is down and locked
- open the free fall valve
- now try to push in the gear
-> you won´t be able to do so because now you are working against the (incombressibel) hydraulic fluid!
 
Typical design error ... ;-(
 
Johannes
D-ESWS  LNC2
 
 


Von: Dominic V. Crain [mailto:domcrain@tpg.com.au]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 13:51
An: lml@lancaironline.net
Betreff: Gear Free Fall

I’d like to draw on the opinion of listers regarding LNC2 gear free fall problem.

The main gear is slow to free fall, and on the jacks (most likely in the air) the RMG won’t lock in.

Slight pressure on the wheel locks it in, which is handy if one wing walks upside down.

Disconnected the actuator strut and it drops like a beauty and snaps into position.

I doubt the actuator struts are the problem because both main gear have exhibited the same problem at the same time. The LMG does eventually lock down on the jacks.

One thing I’ve noticed is the NG is slower to lock down under normal extension than it usually does. Until recently, it was always the first, and quick to lock down. Under free fall the gas strut dives the NG down and locks as it should quite quickly.

Wondered if anyone might have a trouble shooting sequence I can draw upon.

Thanks

Dom Crain

VH-CZJ



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