Posted for "Justin Hawkins"
<JustinH@lancair.com>:
We heated it back up and made test samples. The samples did harden and possibly structural but it
took an extra day for it to fully cure. So in are opinions it just may not be worth using for structural bonding, but hey it is
experimental and you can do as you wish. May not want to mention it during aircraft insurance inspection time. Justin
Hawkins Lancair Airframe & Technical Support Lancair Int. Inc. 250 SE Timber AVE Redmond, OR
97756 justinh@lancair.com 541-923-2244 ext 121 -----Original Message----- From: gary hunter
[mailto:lucyliu22@mac.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:46 AM To: Valin & Allyson Thorn; Valin Thorn Cc: Justin
Hawkins; lml@lancaironline.net; marv@lancair.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Jefco WOE JUST A MINUTE
FOLKS.... If we are talking about Jeffco laminating resins ... You need to listen up. Just
because the resin is crystallized, it does not mean it has gone bad. It is perfectly normal for the resin to crystallize. Epoxy
resins at ambient temperature is a "super cooled" liquid. What that means is, that below it's melting
point... ~ 130F...the product remains a liquid. A dust partical, a seed crystal and cool temperatures (like the floor of
your garage) will accelerate crystal formation. The most pure resins, crystalize fastest. Using the
material in the crystallized state is a no no. If the resins is hazy..that is an indication it has begun to
crystallize. HOWEVER, the resin can be "Reconstituted" by heating it above the melting point of the
crystals. Once the product becomes clear, free of haze and crystal material, it can be cooled back down the room
temperature. The resin is good as new and has not suffered any degradation what so ever. The important part is
to Reconstitute the entire contents of the container. The epoxy resin formulations we use can be mixtures of different
types of resins to get the best overall properties. Some of these different types of resins, are not
super cooled liquids and do not crystallize. So the resin portion that crystallizes is more dense, and settles to the
bottom of the container. If you pour off the liquid part sitting on top of the crystallized part, it will not be
the same composition of the original mixture. So, if you find a container of resin that is not clear all
the way to the bottom. Heat the whole container to melt all the crystals. Stir or shake it
little to mix things back up, then you can pour off what you need. The safest way to heat the resin is the seal the
container tightly, and place it into a bucket of hot tap water Keep refreshing the hot tap water until the resin
is sufficient hot to melt the crystals. If it is a 5 gallon can, I highly recommend you invest in a
silicone heating strap from McMaster Carr or some outfit like that. Some of you innovative types may find a
cheaper way. It is not necessary, but some builders find it handy to keep their resin in a hot box...like an
Igloo cooler with a 40W light bulb in it. This keeps the resin nice and warm and prevents crystal formation. The warm resin
wets out the fabric faster, but it will shorten the working time. Storing you resin on the concrete floor will
speed up the crystal formation process. Place a couple 2X4's between the container and the floor. Some
of you may know me, Jeff Bassman of Jeffco does.. He was one of my customers in the past. I am an epoxy resin chemist of 30+
years, currently working for Dow Chemical Company formulating resins systems for various composite
applications. If any of you have any questions on epoxies for homebuilders... Feel free to email me. I
provide the same type help for the various canard builders too. Gary Hunter Gary Hunter Composites 117
Mesquite St. Lake Jackson, TX 77566 281-433-8478
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