X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.57] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3563670 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:39:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=137.118.16.57; envelope-from=pinetownd@volcano.net Received: from DennisDell (65-174-1-165.dsl.volcano.net [65.174.1.165]) (Authenticated sender: pinetownd@volcano.net) by smtp1.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7FB290AFC for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:38:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <2FC9F4B2FF074AB89FA270FF1C075E4F@DennisDell> From: "Dennis Johnson" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Legacy Stiff Ailerons X-Original-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:38:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C9B05A.8B260640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C9B05A.8B260640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last summer, after returning from flying my Legacy from California to = Alaska and back, I posted a message here about stiff aileron controls. = Near Anchorage on my way home, at flight level 190 and minus 17=B0F, the = ailerons became very stiff. Stiff enough that the TruTrak autopilot's = clutch was "ratcheting" when making a turn. The airplane was fully = controllable at all times, but the ailerons were stiffer to move than = normal. There was no feeling of binding or scraping. =20 I received helpful replies to my message, but I never felt comfortable = that I understood the cause. The airplane had been in Alaska a week, = flying in the rain and sitting out in the rain every day of the trip. = Occasionally, both in flight and on the ground, the rain was ferocious. = What caused the stiff ailerons? Was it the cold weather at FL 190? Was = it some aerodynamic effect of high altitude flight? Was it trapped = water that froze at high altitude? I didn't know. =20 This winter, I went up with a friend to act as my flight test engineer. = I attached a "fish scale" to the stick and with practice, he developed a = somewhat repeatable technique to measure how much stick force it took to = move the ailerons. The rate of aileron deflection was about the same as = the roll rate while flying on instruments. It was a cold day for Northern California, although not even close to = Alaska cold. The airplane had been in a dry hangar and was bone dry. = There was not a cloud in the sky. As a result, I could reasonably = conclude that there could be no "trapped water that froze" issue. Any = stiffness of the ailerons would have to be related to something other = than ice. The primary candidates were the cold temperature causing = contraction somewhere in the aileron controls and binding, or dynamic = pressure related to high altitude flight. So off we went into the wild blue, cold, yonder up to flight level 210 = on an instrument flight plan, checking the aileron breakout force all = the way up. There was no discernible change in aileron breakout force = with altitude/temperature. (If anything, the force might decrease with = altitude, but the data are inconclusive.) The ailerons never became = stiff. =20 My tentative conclusion is that the stiff ailerons I experienced on the = one flight in Alaska was not directly caused by either the high altitude = or the cold weather and that stiff ailerons at altitude are not normal. The reason my conclusion is tentative is that I experienced 1=B0F on my = test flight but it was minus 17=B0F when I had stiff ailerons in Alaska. = It's possible that normal clearances are maintained until colder than = 1=B0F and that my test is invalid because it didn't duplicate the cold = of Alaska. But it does show that aileron forces don't increase linearly = with altitude/temperature and that it's not normal to have stiff = ailerons at high altitude/low temperature in California conditions. Best, Dennis Legacy, 220 hours ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C9B05A.8B260640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Last summer, after returning from flying my Legacy from California = to=20 Alaska and back, I posted a message here about stiff aileron=20 controls.  Near Anchorage on my way home, at flight level = 190 and=20 minus 17=B0F, the ailerons became very stiff.  Stiff enough that = the TruTrak=20 autopilot's clutch was "ratcheting" when making a turn.  The = airplane=20 was fully controllable at all times, but the ailerons were stiffer to = move than=20 normal.  There was no feeling of binding or scraping. 
 
I received helpful replies to my message, but I never felt = comfortable that=20 I understood the cause.  The airplane had been in Alaska a week, = flying in=20 the rain and sitting out in the rain every day of the=20 trip.  Occasionally, both in flight and on the ground, the = rain was=20 ferocious.  What caused the stiff ailerons?  Was it the = cold=20 weather at FL 190?  Was it some aerodynamic effect of high altitude = flight?  Was it trapped water that froze at high = altitude?  I=20 didn't know. 
 
This winter, I went up with a friend to act as my flight test=20 engineer.  I attached a "fish scale" to the stick and with = practice,=20 he developed a somewhat repeatable technique to measure how much stick = force it=20 took to move the ailerons.  The rate of aileron deflection was = about the=20 same as the roll rate while flying on instruments.
 
It was a cold day for Northern California, although not even = close to=20 Alaska cold.  The airplane had been in a dry hangar and was bone = dry. =20 There was not a cloud in the sky.  As a result, I could reasonably = conclude=20 that there could be no "trapped water that froze" issue.  Any = stiffness of=20 the ailerons would have to be related to something other than ice.  = The=20 primary candidates were the cold temperature causing contraction = somewhere=20 in the aileron controls and binding, or dynamic pressure related to = high=20 altitude flight.
 
So off we went into the wild blue, cold, yonder up to flight level = 210 on=20 an instrument flight plan, checking the aileron breakout force all the = way=20 up.  There was no discernible change in aileron = breakout=20 force with altitude/temperature.  (If anything, the force might = decrease=20 with altitude, but the data are inconclusive.)  The ailerons never = became=20 stiff. 
 
My tentative conclusion is that the stiff ailerons I = experienced on=20 the one flight in Alaska was not directly caused by either the high = altitude or=20 the cold weather and that stiff ailerons at altitude are = not normal.
 
The reason my conclusion is tentative is that I experienced 1=B0F = on my test=20 flight but it was minus 17=B0F when I had stiff ailerons in = Alaska.  It's=20 possible that normal clearances are maintained until colder than 1=B0F = and that my=20 test is invalid because it didn't duplicate the cold of Alaska.  = But it=20 does show that aileron forces don't increase linearly with = altitude/temperature=20 and that it's not normal to have stiff ailerons at high altitude/low = temperature=20 in California conditions.
 
Best,
Dennis
Legacy, 220 hours
 
 
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